Solve by completing the square: p^2-3p-88=0
do you know what a "perfect square trinomial" is?
This is what I did so far: p^2-3p-88=0 +88 +88 p^2-3p=88 then (b/2)^2=(-3/2)^2 Then I got lost
And i remember hearing it, but I forgot what it is
hmmm does \(\large \bf (a\pm b)^2 = a^2\pm 2ab+b^2\) ring a bell?
ummm wow, no not at all :/
heheh... well... that's a "perfect square trinomial" notice the pattern 1st element squared middle is "2" times both 2nd element squared
Right, but it says on this equation that I have to solve by completing the square, and that formulas not in the book
well..... keep that in mind for one because "completing the square" more or less means just that
I'm kinda confued
\( \bf p^2-3p-88\implies p^2-3p=88\implies (p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)=88\) any ideas what we need there to get a "perfect square trinomial"
I was going to say 88, but I realized you moved that to the other side. Sorry I'm not sure
Would it be 2?
well..... notice in the parentheses we have 2 terms the 1st one and the middle one notice the middle one recall that the middle is 2 times both so...... what do you think would be the missing term, the 2nd one?
You said the middle is 2 times both, so like 3*3 so 9? Sorry if that's wrong
well... let's see the middle term is 3p <--- we know that much so we can say that, the 1st term is "p" so 2 * p * "2nd term" = 3p if you solve that for "2nd term".... you'd see what that is :)
How do I solve for second term? I know p=1
Would it be 6?
\(\large \bf 2\cdot p\cdot \square =3p\implies \square =?\)
I am not getting any of this. Are you sure this is completing the square, cause I didn't learn this in class?
well...... when they mean "completing the SQUARE" is referring to a "perfect SQUARE trinomial" as shown above
I don't know how to do that tho. Is 88 suppose to be in the blank?
hmmm do you know how to do linear simplification? that is, solving for a term or a variable?
umm I don't think so. I'm going to put a example up of how they should me how to do it, so hold on
x^2+6x-3=0 +3 +3 x^2+6=3 (b/2)^2= (6/3)^2= 3^2= 9 Add to both sides x^2+6x+9=3+9 (x+3)^2=12 sqrt(x+3)^2=sqrt(12) x=3(+-)3.46 x=0.46 or x=-6.46
If you can't help it's fine I give up lol
hmmm say for if you had .... 2x + 3 = 5 could you solve that for "x"?
2x+3=5 -3 -3 2x=2 x=1
well... that's simplifying by linear simplification
Right...But that's a little simpler then this because you only have one variable not 2
the example you showed... above looks a bit convoluted let us find the middle term gimme a sec
\(\bf p^2-3p-88\implies p^2-3p=88\implies (p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)=88 \\ \quad \\ -------------------------------\\ {\color{purple}{ 2\cdot p\cdot \square =3p\implies 2p\square =3p\implies \square =\cfrac{3\cancel{ p }}{2\cancel{ p }}}}\qquad thus\\ -------------------------------\\ \left[p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\right]=88\implies \left(p-\frac{3}{2}\right)^2=88\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ p-\frac{3}{2}=\pm\sqrt{88}\implies p=\pm\sqrt{88}+\frac{3}{2}\)
the 2nd term is 3/2 because if we make the 1st term "p" 2nd term "3/2" then the middle term is \(\bf 2\cdot \textit{1st term}\cdot \textit{2nd term}\implies \cancel{ 2 }\cdot p\cdot \frac{3}{\cancel{ 2 }}\implies 3p\)
OMG! I actually get what you did there. Thanks for typing it out like that, it makes more scenes. So is that all you need or is there still more?
that's.... all....once the perfect square is completed just take square root to both sides and add the 3/2
hmmmm actiually wait a sec
this is so hard :/ If you can't get it tho don't worry about it. This is the only one on the whole page I didn't get. I appreciate the help
lemme correct myself some when we are completing the square we ADDED \(\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2\) but all we're really doing is "borrowing from our good friend Mr Zero" , 0 so if we add \(\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2\) we also have to SUBTRACT \(\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2\)
so.... lemme redo that quick
\(\bf p^2-3p-88\implies p^2-3p=88\implies (p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)=88 \\ \quad \\ -------------------------------\\ {\color{purple}{ 2\cdot p\cdot \square =3p\implies 2p\square =3p\implies \square =\cfrac{3\cancel{ p }}{2\cancel{ p }}}}\qquad thus\\ -------------------------------\\ \left[p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\right]-{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2=88\implies \left(p-\frac{3}{2}\right)^2=88+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ p-\frac{3}{2}=\pm\sqrt{88+\frac{3}{2}}\implies p=\pm\sqrt{88+\frac{3}{2}}+\frac{3}{2}\)
keep in mind, that we're only "borrowing" from Zero, is all we're doing so whatever amount we ADD, we also have to SUBTRACT it
hmmm I missed the squared part... shoot lemme fix that
\(\bf p^2-3p-88\implies p^2-3p=88\implies (p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)=88 \\ \quad \\ -------------------------------\\ {\color{purple}{ 2\cdot p\cdot \square =3p\implies 2p\square =3p\implies \square =\cfrac{3\cancel{ p }}{2\cancel{ p }}}}\qquad thus\\ -------------------------------\\ \left[p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\right]-{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2=88\implies \left(p-\frac{3}{2}\right)^2=88+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ p-\frac{3}{2}=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2}\implies p=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}+\frac{3}{2}\)
hmmm \(\bf p^2-3p-88\implies p^2-3p=88\implies (p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \square ?}}^2)=88 \\ \quad \\ -------------------------------\\ {\color{purple}{ 2\cdot p\cdot \square =3p\implies 2p\square =3p\implies \square =\cfrac{3\cancel{ p }}{2\cancel{ p }}}}\qquad thus\\ -------------------------------\\ \left[p^2-3p+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\right]-{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2=88\implies \left(p-\frac{3}{2}\right)^2=88+{\color{red}{ \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}}^2\qquad thus \\ \quad \\ p-\frac{3}{2}=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2}\implies p=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2}+\frac{3}{2}\)
anyhow... had the squred missing from the fraction in the radical
Wow. Thanks again, you helped so much. I'm defiantly going to ask my teacher to go over this tomorrow.
so... simplifying that we could say that
\(\bf p=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)}+\frac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \sqrt{88+\frac{9}{4}}+\frac{3}{2} \\ \quad \\ p=\sqrt{\cfrac{361}{4}}+\cfrac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \cfrac{\sqrt{361}}{\sqrt{4}}+\cfrac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \cfrac{19}{2}+\cfrac{3}{2} \\ \quad \\ p=\pm \cfrac{\cancel{ 22 }}{\cancel{ 2 }}\to \pm 11\)
darn... it.. missed the square again anyhow \(\bf p=\pm\sqrt{88+\left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2}+\frac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \sqrt{88+\frac{9}{4}}+\frac{3}{2} \\ \quad \\ p=\sqrt{\cfrac{361}{4}}+\cfrac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \cfrac{\sqrt{361}}{\sqrt{4}}+\cfrac{3}{2}\implies p=\pm \cfrac{19}{2}+\cfrac{3}{2} \\ \quad \\ p=\pm \cfrac{\cancel{ 22 }}{\cancel{ 2 }}\to \pm 11\)
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