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OpenStudy (anonymous):

how to find the domain and range of the equation in the attacked file below

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (aum):

For the vertical asymptotes, factor out x^5 from the numerator and the denominator and then take the limit as x-> +/- infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya i got the asymptotes

OpenStudy (aum):

For the rest of the questions you first need to factor the denominator and the numerator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

vert= x=3, x=-1, x=2 horizon= y=3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you factor it?

OpenStudy (aum):

How did you find the vertical asymptotes before factoring the denominator?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i found the zeros

OpenStudy (aum):

How?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i did factor it your right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x+1)(x-3)(x-2)(x-2i)(x+2i)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now what?

OpenStudy (aum):

You are still not telling me how you factored it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i used synthetic division

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is the denominator only though

OpenStudy (aum):

Did you use the rational roots theorem to find possible zeros?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find possible zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

OpenStudy (aum):

You need to use the same method to factor the numerator. There may be cancellations and so you cannot rush to finding the vertical asymptotes just based on the denominator alone (although in many cases it will work)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you find the domain and range though?

OpenStudy (aum):

Here the domain is all x values that will NOT make the denominator zero. Assuming you factored the denominator correctly, the domain is all real values of x except \(x \ne -1\) and \(x \ne 2\) and \(x \ne 3\).

OpenStudy (aum):

before finding the range, factor the numerator and see if something cancels and simplifies the function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-(infinity),-1)(-1,2)(2,3)(3,(infinity)) is that the domain in interval form

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ x = (-\infty, -1) \cup (-1, 2) \cup (2,3) \cup (3, \infty) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

of and where the verticle asymptotes cross the x int is that a x intercept point?

OpenStudy (aum):

To find the y-intercept, set x = 0 and find y (or f(0)). To find the x-intercept, set y = 0 and solve for x. (once again factoring numerator will help here).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for y int set the denominator or numerator to 0?

OpenStudy (aum):

y intercept: set x = 0 in the whole function and then find y. In other words, find f(0).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and same for x int?

OpenStudy (aum):

No. For the x-intercept, set y or f(x) = 0 and solve for x. This is usually when the numerator is zero. But you have to make sure there are not any factors in the numerator that cancels with the denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok now what is the range in interval notation

OpenStudy (aum):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have (x-1)(x+2)(x+3)(x-i)(x+1) as the numerator

OpenStudy (aum):

After you factor the numerator we can look at the range.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the last factor is x+i

OpenStudy (aum):

There should be a constant 3 too in the numerator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im so confused

OpenStudy (aum):

which part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

everything

OpenStudy (aum):

You seem to have done well so far in finding all the factors.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im gonna attach a pic of my factors hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (aum):

if you multiply all the x's the highest power you get is x^5 with a coefficient of 1. But in the numerator it is 3x^5. There should be a factor 3 outside.

OpenStudy (aum):

Also, there is not need to factor that leads to imaginary factors. you can stop a step before that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so in the denominator i just need to put a 3 on the outside

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and thats it?

OpenStudy (aum):

numerator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now how do i find my range?

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \frac{3x^5 +12x^4 + 6x^3 - 6x^2 + 3x - 18) } { (x^5 - 4x^4 + 5x^3 - 10x^2 + 4x + 24) } = \frac{3(x-1)(x+2)(x+3)(x^2+1)}{(x+1)(x-2)(x-3)(x^2+4)} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and also my x and y inters

OpenStudy (aum):

Once we factor the numerator and denominator we can answer all the questions. This should have been the first step: to factor BOTH denominator and numerator. Now we can answer each of the questions properly after noting there is NO common factor that cancels out. a) vertical asymptotes. The ones that make the denominator zero: x = -1, x = 2 and x = 3 b) Horizontal asymptote: Both the numerator and denominator are 5th degree polynomials and so the horizontal asymptotes will be y = the ratio of the coefficients of the highest power: y = 3/1 = 3

OpenStudy (aum):

c) Domain excludes point that make the denominator zero. So x is all real values except -1, 2 and 3. d) Range: When x approaches each point of discontinuity (that is, x = -1, 2, 3), and if you take the limit, you will notice sometimes the limit is -infinity and sometimes it is +infinity. So the range is ALL real values. But the function is NOT defined when x = -1, 2 3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is the answer to d (-(infinity),(infinity))

OpenStudy (aum):

yes.

OpenStudy (aum):

e) x-intercepts means where does the graph of f(x) cut the x-axis? We know that on the x-axis, the y-value is zero. So set y = 0 and solve for x. y = 0 when the numerator is zero and that happens when x= -3, x = -2 and x = 1 and those are the x-intercepts.

OpenStudy (aum):

f) e) y-intercept means where does the graph of f(x) cut the y-axis? We know that on the y-axis, the x-value is zero. So set x = 0 and solve for y. For this look at the function before factoring. put x = 0. y = -18/24 = -3/4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait so the y intercept is (0,-3/4)

OpenStudy (aum):

you can list that in the coordinate form as (0, -3/4) or you can say the y-intercept is -3/4 depending on what form is acceptable to your teacher/book. But be consistent. If y-intercept is expressed as (0, -3/4) then you should probably express x-intercepts as (-3,0), (-2,0) and (1,0) whichever format is acceptable to them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok that is what i did so lastly what are all the possible zeros

OpenStudy (aum):

Oops. the denominator should be factors of 3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not 24

OpenStudy (aum):

g) Possible zeros. Use rational roots theorem to simply LIST all possible zeros. I am assuming they want the possible zeros only for the numerator (or maybe they want for both). But for the numerator the possible zeros are:\[ \pm \frac{\text{Factors of 18}}{\text{Factors of 3}} = \pm\frac{1,2,3,6,9}{1,3} \\ \]List all possibilities: -1, 1, -1/3, +1/3, -2, +2, -2/3, +2/3, -3, +3, -6,+6, -9, +9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i done besides graphing?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if they want all the possible zeros what should i do?

OpenStudy (aum):

yeah, i left out the factor 18 in the numerator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is it wrong?

OpenStudy (aum):

It is correct.

OpenStudy (aum):

assuming they want it only for the numerator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that what the graph should look like

OpenStudy (aum):

How did you get that graph? Did they give it to you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no someone else on this website sent it to me

OpenStudy (aum):

yes, that is the correct graph. It confirms almost all the answers we got from doing algebra.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much for all your help i really appreciate it! you have some awesome karma coming your way!

OpenStudy (aum):

You are very welcome. Thank you.

OpenStudy (aum):

For domain don't forget the Union symbol \(\cup\) in between subdomains in your answer sheet: \(\text{Domain = } (-\infty, -1) \cup (-1, 2) \cup (2,3) \cup (3, \infty)\)

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