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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

What is set builder notation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you tell me what you mean I can help you :)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

well like here is an example problem, I have no clue what to do with it :c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A shorthand used to write sets, often sets with an infinite number of elements. Note: The set {x : x > 0} is read aloud, "the set of all x such that x is greater than 0." It is read aloud exactly the same way when the colon : is replaced by the vertical line.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

how would you start out with it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@beccamarie603 that's correct I was about to say that LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@DarkBlueChocobo read the link that @ganeshie8 gave you its VERY helpfull

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well you have a wonderfull day and I hope you good luck on that test! bye for now :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for that particular problem, first figure out what the domain is

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Would this be an example of the problem at hand ganeshie?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, the denominator of a fraction can never be 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes exatly

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \dfrac{3-x}{5x+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what @ganeshie8 said the demomator of a fraction can never be 0 or else you can't get your answer

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Since the denominator equals 0 when x = -1/5, the domain includes everything except this : Domain = \(\large \{x | x \ne \frac{1}{5}\}\)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alrights sorry if i have delay i keep looking at the link ganeshie gave and come back aha

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

erg this seems complex >.<

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

*** Domain = \(\large \{x | x \ne -\frac{1}{5}\}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

read it as : "x such that x is not equal to -1/5"

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

like, if you don't like pineapples, you would order like below in a juiceshop : " fruit such that the fruit is not pineapple "

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

how did you find that though?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

could you go through tthe steps

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you do know how to find the domain of a rational function right ?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

well i do not think so :c sadly

OpenStudy (freckles):

Is 3/0 a number?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

no because the denominator cant be 0

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

wait is that like when you break down an equation ganeshie

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do you mean, you want to set the denominator equal to 0 and solve x so that you find what exactly makes the denominator 0 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simply set the denominator equal to 0 and solve x that gives you exclude values for the domain whats the denominator in your rational function ?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

5x+1=0 x=--1/5

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

why two negative signs -- ?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

oh it was a miss type only ment one aha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

:) so x = -1/5 is the evil value that makes your function go crazy so exclude it from the domain

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are there any other values for x that make your function undefined ?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alright so that is why it would be be b

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes your funciton is OKays for all other values of x, the only exclude value is -1/5

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alright so that makes sense but for the next one it changes. Do you just set the denominator to 0 and check to see if it is not equal to 3/5?-

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

factor "-1" from the numerator and see what you get

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

well im confused because there isnt -1 there >.<

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

well, we can write ` a-b ` as ` -(b-a) `

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just an algebra game

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

ohh so -(5x-3)?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you rearranging denominator like that ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \dfrac{5x-3}{3-5x} = \dfrac{5x-3}{-1(5x-3)}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you can cancel 5x-3 top and bottom, assuming 5x-3 is never 0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \dfrac{5x-3}{3-5x} = \dfrac{5x-3}{-1(5x-3)} = -1 ;~~5x-3 \ne 0\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

wouldnt this just switch the signs?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Erg *facepalm* i forgot you said denominator not numerator T-T

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no, i said both to confuse you ;P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you could do that to either of them, it doesnt matter

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so what i see is that you factored -1 into the denominator and canceled out 5x-3 then got =1 for your answer?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

-1*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats right !

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

alright thank you for taking the time to explain this to me haha

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so then this would be false

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its true ! facepalm moment for meh lol

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the statement in your question says exactly what we concluded just now go thru it again :)

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

what makes you so happy @edmodo :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you going to get xenoverse too

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im not much into gaming unless you call pacman a game! but dragonball sounds cool, hope you have lots of fun :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i like pacman too he is on the newest supr smash bros on wii u or 3ds

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