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OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

Is inverse a functional? From what I learned, a functional is a function which you input a function and output a real number and inverse does exactly that. So by definition, inverse should be considered as a functional. But why nobody mention that?

OpenStudy (perl):

we dont call it functional, we call it a function

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

ok, @perl , so what is classified as a functional, then?

OpenStudy (perl):

it is just called a function

OpenStudy (perl):

What we are doing is, you are given a function. then you are asked , is the inverse *relation* a function. The inverse relation just switches the x and y values , it is not necessarily a function

OpenStudy (perl):

the inverse relation may or may not be a function itself

OpenStudy (perl):

the inverse relation is defined as switching x and y values. for example suppose you have a function f = { (1,2) ( 1,3) (2,3) (4,5) } the inverse relation , we can call it f^-1 f^-1 = { (2,1) (3,1) (3,2) (5,4) } but f^-1 is not a function

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

ok, but can you give an example of functional? @perl

OpenStudy (perl):

an example of a function whose inverse relation is also function? sure, all you need is a one to one function. f = { (1,2) (2,3 ) (3,4) (4,5) } f^-1 = { (2,1) (3,2 ) (4,3 ) (5,4 ) } And with functions, f(x) = x^3 , the inverse relation f^-1 = x^(1/3) is also a function

OpenStudy (perl):

please stop using the word functional

OpenStudy (perl):

functions, if you are using english.

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

take a look

OpenStudy (perl):

you are studying this?

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I could not understand partially because my mother language is not englsih

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

yes

OpenStudy (perl):

this is advanced math ,

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I know

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I;ve done cal III

OpenStudy (perl):

your question was, is the inverse a functional. so my question is, inverse of what?

OpenStudy (perl):

you didnt use the definition of functional "Is inverse a functional? From what I learned, a functional is a function which you input a function and output a real number and inverse does exactly that. So by definition, inverse should be considered as a functional. But why nobody mention that?"

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

ok. so how do I apply that

OpenStudy (perl):

no idea. why are you interested in functionals?

OpenStudy (perl):

you dont learn about functionals in isolation, its part of some analysis course, possibly

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I want to do calculus of variations

OpenStudy (perl):

oh ok

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

my sarting oint is physics, more specifically, Lagrangian mechanics

OpenStudy (perl):

then you better start with an intro to calculus of variations. wikipedia articles are usually too sophisticated to understand on a straight cold reading

OpenStudy (perl):

i mean without context

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

ok I'll see

OpenStudy (perl):

i apologize for my comments earlier. i thought you were asking when does a function have an inverse

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

@perl , No worry, it's alright

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