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OpenStudy (hba):

Check this out Some points: God is defined as 'Just' and 'Perfect'. Questions that Arise? ->Non-muslims go to hell,muslims go in heaven,Although their are good humans and have good deads. Example: One man died at the age of 80,on his last day he converts to a Muslim. Just became muslim and died. Another lastday case of two twins is that one is muslim and another is non-muslim.Once they convinced each other and switched their religion the brother who turned non-muslim,who was muslim for 79 years died. He went to Hell.

OpenStudy (hba):

I was born a muslim and another person was born non-muslim.So their was no person in his/her surrounding who could have given them the message,what's their fault? Example: A professor comes from the US to teach in a local Pakistani University when he is paid at the end of the month the Paki University pays him 200,000 PKR.But the professor says that this is not valid there,it should be in dollars and I won't take this.Similarly,a man robbed Ali's cow.Ali doesn't know who he was and he was never caught.In hereafter,Ali catches that man and says that you were the one who stole.The man says I'll give you the cost of that cow.But that currency is no more valid in the Hereafter

OpenStudy (hba):

Example:A person once wrote on fb "death to India" and his picture was taken burning the Indian flag.When he applies for a investor visa and wants to invest 500,000 $ there.But still India won't give him a visa,looking at his past record.He goes back to a village "Chichu ki malia" and builds a palace there and everything of high standards,But when he gets out of that palace he'll still be in that village. Similarly,What ever good deeds you do and in the end you say "I don't believe in God",so you don't get the visa to Heaven.The currency(Good deads) is valid but can't be used.This currency will serve to reduce the torment but not be used in Heaven.

OpenStudy (opcode):

God turns 'just' and 'perfect' into objective things. Normally they would be subjective. A man married to a certain woman, defines his wife as perfect. A man married to another woman defines his wife as perfect, however for other man, he may the other man's wife to be other than perfect. Your main issue with your examples/arguments: 1. Condemning all non-Muslims to hell is erroneous. Only Allah (swt) knows the judgement of us. There have been plenty of hadith that suggest a non-Muslim going to heaven is possible. Allah (swt) is ever-merciful. To do a sweeping condemnation of non-Muslims is blasphemous. (Since you assert that you have some sort of ability to know ones final destination.) Recall this hadith: "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that." Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 3321 Book 59, Hadith 127

OpenStudy (hba):

Minority rights should not be preffered over minority right Example:In Ramadan,In Islamic countries,Food stores are closed because the majority fasts.The minority that does not fast are not allowed to publically eat.They can eat at home or at some private place.

OpenStudy (hba):

If you don't recognize God,If you don't recognize Heaven.Why does it matter to you if you enter Heaven or Hell Opcode?

OpenStudy (hba):

First of all you have to kill the nafs to get the Mayat(Companionship) of God.

OpenStudy (opcode):

Assumption! > I recognize God. As for nafs, what does that have to do with my comment? Elucidate please?

OpenStudy (opcode):

Oh, I miss read your above comment.

OpenStudy (opcode):

If one does not recognize God, it could be from a multitude of issues. To say they chose to rejected God would to say you are assertive that everyone who does recognize God is taught the concept of God. Why should they be punished due to their lack of knowledge especially if they could not obtain it if they lived in areas that were highly war ravaged.

OpenStudy (hba):

If you say God has a son,then God wouldn't be absolute as genes are transfered to the son. Characterstics are transferred.The son is also a God.To create some part of him is given to his son(should also be absolute). Therefore,He's no more absolute.When Absoluteness ends ,the existence comes to an end.When the Son(God) is powerful he won't be God anymore. One more argument is that God makes one son but humans have many children? Quraish believed that Angels were God's daughters.But if they think that their daughters are disgrace for them so why God would have daughters. One more argument. God the father,God the son,God the spirit(who conveys messages from father to son) At the day of Justice,they all will be one God.That means that uptill now their is no God and these 3 would combine and be powerful,so they'll not be powerful seprately. As for you @Opcode : When you say God is Just then it means that everyone gets a chance to actually know about God atleast once in his lifetime. When a person strives to find God,Allah opens ways to Him(steps for him) Example:A person goes to a Bayan but is busy with his mobile phone.There he dies and then says he didn't get a Chance.God called him for his love but he was busy in his mobile. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH WHETHER MUSLIM OR NON-MUSLIM ONCE IN HIS LIFE ASKS HIMESELF A QUESTION THAT WHAT SHALL HE CHOOSE,THERE GOD OPENS DOORS TOWARDS HIM. Example: You go to a restaurant and think alot of to choose which burger to eat.But you are not even giving that much importance to choose your religion. You have to bend in to learn. As for the nafs part: You have to step on your ego(nafs) to move towards God. Everyone is tested by their level of Iman.Choice is always there b/w you and ideology of God. We are tested with Hukook Ul Ibaad which is the manifest of Hukook Allah. That means that Self Satisfaction is wrong because you do it just for yourself. Example: you are nice to your parents because you want to be called a nice son ,for your self satisfaction. If you do it for Allah instead for yourself then your choice won't go astray.Find Happiness in God's Happiness.You have to get rid of the self.The priority has to be God,just lens has to be changed.

OpenStudy (opcode):

1. You assume ever person on earth has a working brain, sadly birth defects that effect the brain are common. Why happens to those who are retarded. and unable to ask the questions? (I understand Islam's position that they are forgiven, just saying non-Muslims who never had the ability do exist.) 2. The Christian Trinity is symbolic not logic. The concept of genes and traits to not exist in the Trinity. 3. Main main issue has still not been address. Why the sweeping condemnation of all non-Muslims?

OpenStudy (hba):

Well yeah I'm sorry I didn't touch that point yet.The people who are handicapped are given easiness in this world too and the hereafter. Allah has balanced everything :poor and rich,white and black,day and night,positive and negative. Islam is the only religion that covers all ideologies. Just let me true here,You Won't ever Understand whole of God because then he'll be constructed in your Mind and will create God then. Well I'm just saying why would you use a outdated version when you have the latest version.God has sent his set of rules for every generation,Although he may have included some previous points. Well the point is that even if someone converted at the last day to being a non-muslim,he converts with the assumption that he'll be a non-muslim all his life.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am not sure about this one I think @opcode would be the best one to answer this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, guess who is Muslim now?

OpenStudy (kenljw):

I read in the Prophet Jeremiah years ago "God prefers those who did wrong all there life and turned right than those who do right all their life and turns wrong", may not be an exact quote but essentially what I remember.

OpenStudy (nightwielder):

Surroundings may make people different religions. ex. Christian family However, everyone is given the opportunity to discover religion when they grow up. In the technological world, there is no excuse. Everyone is given the choice. Some do not change their religion because the "grew up with it". That is their choice. See. Even though it seems that they did not have a choice, they actually did. Those who are raised Muslim also have the choice. To be Muslim, you have to hold specific beliefs. Some Muslim-raised people can convert because they do not hold those beliefs. If they say they are Muslim to fit in but are actually don't believe, then Allah (God) knows and that person will be considers a non-believer. It's not as hard as you are making it @hba .

OpenStudy (kenljw):

In the Prophet's it said "God doesn't think a man does", thank God. You mention Justice, Perfection, and leave out one of the main themes in the Prophet's "Mercy". The fact that God may give someone mercy may result with some saying it's unjust. That's the position of God, and I truly prefer his "dictatorship" than man's governments, for man is imperfect, it may turn out that God will allow both where do you stand.

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