Suppose R'(1)=16. a) If f(x)=R(5x), find f '(1/5) b) If g(x)=R(x+8), find g'(−7) c)If h(x) = R(x/7), find h'(7)
@iambatman can you help me please?
If f(x)=R(5x), then f'(x) = ??
Right, I don't know if I am supposed to use the chain rule, but if so, what is the inside and what is the outside?
the outer function is R(x) the inner function is 5x
ok,so would it be R'(5x)*5? which would be 16*5=80
because 5(1/5)=1 and R'(1)=16
not quite
oh wait, nvm
f(x)=R(5x) f'(x)=5*R'(5x) f'(1/5)=5*R'(5(1/5)) f'(1/5)=5*R'(1) f'(1/5)=5*16 f'(1/5)=80 yeah you got it right
ok, and so for b), would the answer be -112 because after it is all simplified, you get 16*-7
g(x)=R(x+8) g'(x)=R'(x+8) g'(-7)=R'(-7+8) g'(-7)=R'(1) g'(-7)=16 so this shows you that shifting the graph (or translating it) does not affect the slopes of the tangent lines.
I didn't show it, but with the chain rule you'll have 1* on the outside, but that just results in R'(x+8)
ok, I see what I did wrong. I put it as R'(-7+8)*(x) which gave me R'(1)=16*-7. however the derivative of x is 1 which I messed up.
I go the answer for c) by doing the chain and quotient rule. the answer I got was 16/7
no you would derive x+8 to get 1 and then multiply it by R'(x+8)
h(x) = R(x/7) h'(x) = (1/7)*R'(x/7) h'(7) = (1/7)*R'(7/7) h'(7) = (1/7)*R'(1) h'(7) = (1/7)*16 h'(7) = 16/7 looks good
you don't need to do the quotient rule, but it's possible to use it
I'd just pull out the coefficient
ok, thanks!! I just have one last question to do for my homework. Can you also help me with that really quick?
sure
I need to find the derivative of g(x)=5/(a^2-w^2)^4 My answer was -40a(a^2-w^2)^3/(a^2-w^2)^8
\[\frac{ -40a(a^2-w^2)^3 }{ (a^2-w^2)^8 }\] to make my answer more clear.
I see g(x), but I don't see any x on the right side
sorry I meant to put g(w) but habit forced me to put x
how did you get -40a? When you derive the inside a^2 - w^2, you should be left with 2w (the a^2 is constant which derives to 0)
-2w I mean
now that you mention that, I have no clue because I got -40a by -5*8a and I got 8a by 4*2a
it's very close to the answer, but incorrect
you can't say a^2 turns into 2a because you aren't deriving with respect to 'a'
right, I always get confused when there are just letters...so would the new answer be -10w(a^2-w^2)^3/(a^2-w^2)^8
the general rule is to derive with respect to the independent variable
usually (not always), the other letters are constants
right, I get that, it just always trips me up...
-10w(a^2-w^2)^3/(a^2-w^2)^8 is close, but again, incorrect
what part of it is incorrect?
it might help to think of the problem in the form u/v
the -10w, the (a^2-w^2)^3, or the bottom?
what do you mean u/v?
u = 5 v = (a^2-w^2)^4
so u' = 0 v' = 4(a^2-w^2)*2w = 8w(a^2-w^2)
this is setting up for the quotient rule
oops, v' = 4(a^2-w^2)*(-2w) = -8w(a^2-w^2), there fixed it
ok, so it would be -40w.....
first off, is the bottom part of my answer correct?
oh and I completely forgot an exponent v' = 4(a^2-w^2)^3*(-2w) = -8w(a^2-w^2)^3
or wait is it just 40w since it is -5*-8w...
anyways, u'*v - v'*u = 0*(a^2-w^2)^4 - ( -8w(a^2-w^2)^3 )*5 = 40w(a^2-w^2)^3 is all in the numerator
ok, thanks!! I think it have it now. \[\frac{ 40w(a^2-w^2)^3 }{ (a^2-w^2)^8 }\]
then you can reduce to get \[\large \frac{ 40w(a^2-w^2)^3 }{ (a^2-w^2)^8 } = \frac{40w}{(a^2-w^2)^5 } \]
ok, thanks!!! I finally get it!!
np
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