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OpenStudy (anonymous):

coudl you guys help me evalating this limit, only using algebra techniques.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the textbook answer seems to be sqrt(6/5) or 1/5sqrt(30) but i have no idea how to get there tried factoring both sides but no success yet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

As x goes to -3? Or as y goes to -3? (You're function only has y's in it. If the limit is, indeed, as x goes to -3, this is really easy).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg my mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeh a x goes to -3 replace y for x :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No worries. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't your teacher trying to be tricky! Using only algebra...Hmm.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah im still not allowed to use L'hospital rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Factor the equation under the sq root.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i factored top like (x-3)(x+3)

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

did you try factoring top and bottom yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now do the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The denominator factors nicely, as well. A hint will be that we want something on the top to cancel with something on the bottom.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and bottom using quadratic formula into (x+3)(x+1/2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the answer doesnt match with the graph or the textbook answer :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No that is not the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did it using quadratic formula

myininaya (myininaya):

x+1/2=0 2x+1=0 2x+1 should be the other factor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh how you got that quadratic :D

myininaya (myininaya):

Well I know (x+3)(x+1/2) won't work because the leading coefficient will be x^2 not 2x^2

myininaya (myininaya):

and you said you got x=-1/2 multiply 2 on both sides 2x=-1 add 1 on both sides 2x+1=0 so 2x+1 is a factor

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

\(\bf \textit{quadratic formula}\\ y={\color{blue}{ 2}}x^2{\color{red}{ +7}}x{\color{green}{ +3}} \qquad \qquad x= \cfrac{ - {\color{red}{ b}} \pm \sqrt { {\color{red}{ b}}^2 -4{\color{blue}{ a}}{\color{green}{ c}}}}{2{\color{blue}{ a}}}\)

myininaya (myininaya):

leading term will be x^2 not 2x^2*

myininaya (myininaya):

That isn't really the normal way I factor but yeah you can work backwards if you work backwards correctly to get the factors

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{\frac{ (x+3)(x-3) }{ (2x+)(x+3)}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So Bryan what do you do next?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

hmmm retry the quadratic... though... plain factoring works well though.. anyhow as nelsonjedi pointed out already \(\bf lim_{x\to -3}\ \sqrt{\cfrac{x^2-9}{2x^2+7x+3}}\quad \begin{cases} x^2-9\to (x-3)(x+3)\\ 2x^2+7x+3\to (2x+1)(x+3) \end{cases}\quad thus \\ \quad \\ \sqrt{\cfrac{(x-3)\cancel{ (x+3) }}{(2x+1)\cancel{ (x+3) }}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i tried quadratic but still the same result could you guys point out my mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it cant be done with quadratic equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

FOIL method then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

FOIL...that's the ticket

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh isee then Thank you for all the help !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but it really hard i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do yiu know thw answer yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha not hard really i jsut had forgotten that trick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You cannot use quadratic to factor an equation..I know I have made the mistake in the past. Quadratic formula is a method to solve an equation...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So what is the limit?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank for the advise i was totally sure that worked if i set the thing to 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it appears to be -6 over -6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Zero is correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whoa but i doesnt match the answer on the book

myininaya (myininaya):

are you guys still on the same problem?

myininaya (myininaya):

I will copy what @jdoe0001 said above \[\bf lim_{x\to -3}\ \sqrt{\cfrac{x^2-9}{2x^2+7x+3}}\quad \begin{cases} x^2-9\to (x-3)(x+3)\\ 2x^2+7x+3\to (2x+1)(x+3) \end{cases}\quad thus \\ \quad \\ \sqrt{\cfrac{(x-3)\cancel{ (x+3) }}{(2x+1)\cancel{ (x+3) }}}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

if you put in -3 what do you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got -6/-6

myininaya (myininaya):

not exactly

myininaya (myininaya):

good on the top

myininaya (myininaya):

not on the bottom

myininaya (myininaya):

2(-3)+1=-6+1=-5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol such a silly mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah thanks for pointing it out

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\sqrt{\frac{-3-3}{2(-3)+1}}=\sqrt{\frac{-6}{-6+1}}=\sqrt{\frac{-6}{-5}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D Thank You

myininaya (myininaya):

and then of course that inside simpliflies to 6/5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah now thats the answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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