coudl you guys help me evalating this limit, only using algebra techniques.
the textbook answer seems to be sqrt(6/5) or 1/5sqrt(30) but i have no idea how to get there tried factoring both sides but no success yet
As x goes to -3? Or as y goes to -3? (You're function only has y's in it. If the limit is, indeed, as x goes to -3, this is really easy).
omg my mistake
yeh a x goes to -3 replace y for x :D
No worries. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't your teacher trying to be tricky! Using only algebra...Hmm.
yeah im still not allowed to use L'hospital rule
Factor the equation under the sq root.
yeah i factored top like (x-3)(x+3)
did you try factoring top and bottom yet?
Now do the bottom
The denominator factors nicely, as well. A hint will be that we want something on the top to cancel with something on the bottom.
and bottom using quadratic formula into (x+3)(x+1/2)
but the answer doesnt match with the graph or the textbook answer :(
No that is not the bottom
i did it using quadratic formula
x+1/2=0 2x+1=0 2x+1 should be the other factor
oh how you got that quadratic :D
Well I know (x+3)(x+1/2) won't work because the leading coefficient will be x^2 not 2x^2
and you said you got x=-1/2 multiply 2 on both sides 2x=-1 add 1 on both sides 2x+1=0 so 2x+1 is a factor
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leading term will be x^2 not 2x^2*
That isn't really the normal way I factor but yeah you can work backwards if you work backwards correctly to get the factors
\[\sqrt{\frac{ (x+3)(x-3) }{ (2x+)(x+3)}}\]
So Bryan what do you do next?
hmmm retry the quadratic... though... plain factoring works well though.. anyhow as nelsonjedi pointed out already \(\bf lim_{x\to -3}\ \sqrt{\cfrac{x^2-9}{2x^2+7x+3}}\quad \begin{cases} x^2-9\to (x-3)(x+3)\\ 2x^2+7x+3\to (2x+1)(x+3) \end{cases}\quad thus \\ \quad \\ \sqrt{\cfrac{(x-3)\cancel{ (x+3) }}{(2x+1)\cancel{ (x+3) }}}\)
so i tried quadratic but still the same result could you guys point out my mistake
so it cant be done with quadratic equation?
FOIL method then?
FOIL...that's the ticket
oh isee then Thank you for all the help !
but it really hard i see
Do yiu know thw answer yet?
oh got it
hahaha not hard really i jsut had forgotten that trick
You cannot use quadratic to factor an equation..I know I have made the mistake in the past. Quadratic formula is a method to solve an equation...
So what is the limit?
thank for the advise i was totally sure that worked if i set the thing to 0
it appears to be -6 over -6
Zero is correct
whoa but i doesnt match the answer on the book
are you guys still on the same problem?
I will copy what @jdoe0001 said above \[\bf lim_{x\to -3}\ \sqrt{\cfrac{x^2-9}{2x^2+7x+3}}\quad \begin{cases} x^2-9\to (x-3)(x+3)\\ 2x^2+7x+3\to (2x+1)(x+3) \end{cases}\quad thus \\ \quad \\ \sqrt{\cfrac{(x-3)\cancel{ (x+3) }}{(2x+1)\cancel{ (x+3) }}}\]
if you put in -3 what do you get?
i got -6/-6
not exactly
good on the top
not on the bottom
2(-3)+1=-6+1=-5
omg
lol such a silly mistake
hahah thanks for pointing it out
\[\sqrt{\frac{-3-3}{2(-3)+1}}=\sqrt{\frac{-6}{-6+1}}=\sqrt{\frac{-6}{-5}}\]
:D Thank You
and then of course that inside simpliflies to 6/5
yeah now thats the answer
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