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OpenStudy (anonymous):

On question 22.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

@kirbykirby @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@antonio_xx2 thank you! I don't really know who to tag.

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

um both

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, I mean, just in general, if you hadn't posted that then nobody would be tagged because I don't know who I should.

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

huh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nevermind...

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'll do the first one (problem 16) to get you started --------------------------- Statement 1 is "<2 and <5 are supplementary" Reason 1 is "Given" Most of the time, you start with what you are given. It is a very common starting point and if you get stuck, you can at least start with the given. --------------------------- Statement 2 is already filled in Reason 2 is "Vertical angle theorem" The Vertical angle theorem is the idea that vertical angles are congruent. Angles 2 and 3 are congruent because they are vertical angles. --------------------------- Statement 3 is already filled in. Reason 3 is "Substitution" (not 100% sure though) There are a few missing steps here, but the idea is that if "<2 and <5 are supplementary" AND <2 = <3, then "<3 and <5 are supplementary". Notice how I replaced angle 2 with angle 3. ---------------------------- Statement 4 is "L || m" Reason 4 "Converse of the same side interior angles theorem" The last statement is ALWAYS what you want to prove. The reason is basically paraphrased to "if the same side interior angles are supplementary, then the lines are parallel"

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

is that it @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

is there any more infoemation or somrthing

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's all i can think of for 16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, that looks right! Thanks so much.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you'll do the others the same way

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So for q 17, the paragraph proof, that would be along the same lines, with the statements and reasons, just written less formally and in paragraph form, correct? @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@antonio_xx2 are you doing this test too or something?

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

lol no i just trying to help u out:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, thanks haha!

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

ya sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay I've got question 17. Question 18 I'm not sure of.

OpenStudy (antonio_xx2):

i gtg @jim_thompson5910 help

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for 18, you would use the slope formula \[\Large m = \frac{y_{2}-y_{1}}{x_{2}-x_{1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so -4-5/9--2?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes and evaluate that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-9/11?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So is that the slope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So for question 19, would I use the slope-intercept formula there too? @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you need the slope, then you use either point to find the y-intercept

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, so to get the slope I'd use the slope formula. That equals.. 4 to be the slope? So, I'm not sure how to find the y-intercept though, or really what that means.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

m = 4 is the slope

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

say we pick the first point (-1,-4) so (x,y) = (-1,-4) x = -1 y = -4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

y = mx+b y = 4x+b -4 = 4*(-1)+b solve for b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b=8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that's the formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, 20 I know how to do.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, question 21 I'm not sure of. I have to find the equation for the vertical line that goes through (10, 3). I don't know how to go about finding that equation. As you can tell, equations are not my strong suit. @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hint: draw a vertical line through (10,3). What other points lie on this line? Plot a few, like 3 or 4. What do you notice about every point on this line? What do they have in common?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well they all have 10 = x but the y varies because it is on the x = 10 line

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the final answer is x = 10

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

x = 10 means x is fixed to be 10 always y is whatever you want

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhh I get it!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's a bit strange since most of the equations are things like y = 2x+3 or y = -5x-7 things in y = ... form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, but if you had a horizontal line couldn't it be, say, y=3?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

same point (10,-3) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, just in general. y doesn't always have to equal a long, complicated equation if a line is horizontal

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah if it is horizontal, it is y = SOMENUMBER ex: y = 3 like you said or y = 10 y = 3 goes through points with y coordinates of 3 y = 10 goes through points with y coordinates of 10 etc etc you get the picture

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, okay, that's what I thought. How about question 22? For that, all I have to do is graph it and see, right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have to describe how to construct a square with a given side length (using compass and straightedge only)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh sorry I was looking at 23 :p

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

23 you find the slope of each if the two slopes multiply to -1, then they are perpendicular

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, question 22 I don't have any idea how to do.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

check out http://www.mathopenref.com/printsquare.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so 23 - the slope of the first given is 2/3, and the second is 11/8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/3*11/8=11/12. So they're not perpendicular?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

2/3 is close 11/8 is close

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

both slopes are incorrect

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait, -2/3 and -11/8?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-2/3 good for the first one -11/8, no that is still wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

in the numerator you will have -5-(-6) = -5+6 = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/8

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good, so -2/3 and 1/8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now multiply them you said?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-2/3*1/8=-1/12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the result is not -1, so the two lines aren't perpendicular

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Awesome! let me type in my short answer hold on

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this animation is very handy for 22 http://www.mathopenref.com/constsquare.html

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

basically the first link, but in movie form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Done. Now for question 22. I will look at the two links you gave me.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can have it autoplay all steps through, but I recommend you go through step by step manually so you set your own pace

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, I just watched that, that's really helpful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Phew, I'm done. Thank you so much for all your help. I would fan you but my thing is bugging and won't go past 'checking fan status'.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this site is a bit weird sometimes

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