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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay last question I swear. Another law question with derivatives. Problem in comments

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

if the limit of a function, the limit of the difference quotient, and the function itself exist and are the same, the function is continuous, differentiable, and defined.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

the only way to know if III is true is to knwo about the second derivative. But you don't have information on that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how do I check the other two? That's mostly what I was stuck on

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Okay, well, what's f(2) equal?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Isn't f(2) that equation?

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

omg I am so sorry. Okay. Ignore what i said before. What you need to know is that if a function is differentiable, it must be continuous. However, you dont' know anything abou thte derivative of a derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay the whole question just seems dumb to me lol. Thanks for your help

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Honestly, this thing has me stumped. If you have that limit set up equal to some value, then it seems like the derivative exists, which means it is differentiable at x = 2. If it's differentiable at some value, then it has to be continuous on f(x) at that the same value. So II implies I simply based on how derivatives are constructed (with the limit definition). If f(x) is differentiable at x = c, then f ' (x) is continuous at x = c. If you have some jump in value on f ' (x) at x = c (or near it), then you have a sudden change in slopes which leads to sharp undifferentiable points. So if II is true, then III must be true as well. That's why I'm thinking all 3 (I, II, III) are true. But that choice isn't listed. It's just odd.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

jim I thought it would just be I and II

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if II is true, then III has to be true

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can't have f(x) differentiable at x = c and have f ' (x) discontinuous at x = c.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and if III is true, then II has to be true

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

I thought you could... you can't have f(x) differentiable at x=c and have f(x) discontinuous at x=c, but you can have what you mentionioed?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah f(x) also needs to be continuous at x = c as well

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a good example is f(x) = |x| f(x) is continuous, but f ' (x) has a discontinuity at x = 0, so f(x) is not differentiable at x = 0.

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