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OpenStudy (idku):

Some integral practice problem....

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{2x^2-16x+26}~dx\]Don't do my problem though, giude me if I am stuck...

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please note that: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2x ^{2}-16x+26 }=\frac{ 1 }{ 2(x ^{2}-8x+16-16+13) }\]

OpenStudy (idku):

Dang it, I lost my latex.

OpenStudy (idku):

ohh, wait, -2/

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

sorry I think: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\frac{ 1 }{ (x-4)^{2}-3 }\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I was so off.... \[\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{2(x^2-8x+16)-6}~du\]\[\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{2(x-4)^2-6}~du\]

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2}\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{(x-4)^2-6}~du\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

that's right!

OpenStudy (idku):

then u=x-4, du=dx

OpenStudy (idku):

Oh the dus should be dx.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, wait a moment, I think better is:

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2}\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{u^2-6}~du\] like this

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 6 }\frac{ 1 }{ \left( \frac{ x-4 }{ \sqrt{3} } \right)^{2}-1 }\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I am not a good follower I guess...

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

sorry I've made an error before, please note that: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2[(x-4)^{2}-3] }\] do you agree?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

@idku

OpenStudy (idku):

well that is what I said...

OpenStudy (idku):

my last reply in equation editor.

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2}\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{u^2-6}~du\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I subed u.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

ok! now I write this: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2*3[(\frac{ x-4 }{ \sqrt{3} })^{2}-1] }\] do you agree?

OpenStudy (idku):

I see the x-4, but it is kind of hard to follow the who thing with the sqrt3/

OpenStudy (idku):

the whol*le thing...

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please I rewrite simplier

OpenStudy (idku):

I only meant I didn't understand how you obtained the result, nut that it is inefficient or something.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2*3[ \frac{ (x-4)^{2} }{ 3 }-1 ]}\] now?

OpenStudy (idku):

nvm, I am sorry for wasting your time, I think I'll try to start over from \[\frac{1}{2}\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{x^2-8x+13}~dx\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I am very bad to follow the skipped steps.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

so?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I know another method!

OpenStudy (idku):

The message I am trying to deliver, is that I just simply don't understand what you are doing.

OpenStudy (idku):

So, whatever, don't waste your time on me...

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

ok! nevertheless if you need help, please send me a message!

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{2x^2-16x+26}~dx\]\[\frac{1}{2} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{x^2-8x+13}~dx\]

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{(x-4)^2-3}~dx\]Ohh,, I see, you divided by 3 on the denominator. Don't know why you experienced a difficulty saying so, but I get it ty. \[\frac{1}{2} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{3[\frac{(x-4)^2}{3}-1]}~dx\]and then, you distributed the power

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{3[\frac{(x-4)^2}{\sqrt{3}^2}-1]}~dx\]\[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{3}} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{[\frac{(x-4)^2}{\sqrt{3}^2}-1]}~dx\]\[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{3}} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{ \left(\begin{matrix} \frac{x-4}{3} \\ \end{matrix}\right) ^2 -1}~dx\]

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{3}} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{ \left(\begin{matrix} \frac{x-4}{3} \\ \end{matrix}\right) ^2 -1^2}~dx\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I think: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\] not: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2\sqrt{3} }\] please check

OpenStudy (idku):

ohh, true So it would become \[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{ \left(\begin{matrix} \frac{x-4}{3} \\ \end{matrix}\right) ^2 -1^2}~dx\]because we already had the 1/2 on te outside.

OpenStudy (idku):

\[u=\frac{x-4}{3}~~~~~du=dx\]

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{u^2 -1}~du\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

furthermore I think: \[\frac{ x-4 }{ \sqrt{3} }\] not \[\frac{ x-4 }{ 3 }\] please check

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, sqrt{3}, so I'll sub back the sqrt 3, but as it is now, I will just coontinue... alright?

OpenStudy (idku):

tnx for catching that

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please change variable, namely: \[t=\frac{ x-4 }{ \sqrt{3} }\] where t is the new variable

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{t^2 -1}~dt\]\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{(t+1)(t-1)}~dt\]\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{A}{(t+1)}+\frac{B}{(t-1)}~dt\]not sure why, t, but whatever makes you happy. \[A(t-1)+B(t+1)=1~~~~~~~~A=-1/2,~~~~B=1/2\]\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } -\frac{1}{2(t+1)}+\frac{1}{2(t-1)}~dt\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

that's right!

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{6} \int\limits_{ }^{ } \frac{1}{2(t+1)}-\frac{1}{2(t-1)}~dt\]\[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| 2(t+1) \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| 2(t-1) \right|+C\]\[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (t+1) \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (t-1) \right|+C\]removing 1/6(ln(2) because they cancel, and even if they don't they get absorbed by the +C.

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (\frac{x-4}{\sqrt{3}}+1) \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (\frac{x-4}{\sqrt{3}}-1) \right|+C\]

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (\frac{x-4+\sqrt{3}}{\sqrt{3}}) \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (\frac{x-4-\sqrt{3}}{\sqrt{3}}) \right|+C\]

OpenStudy (idku):

the square roots of 3, are also gone, \[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (x-4+\sqrt{3}) \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| (x-4-\sqrt{3}) \right|+C\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, I think there is a error: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 12 }\left( \ln (t-1)-\ln(t+1) \right)\]

OpenStudy (idku):

So, it would be, \[\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| x-4+\sqrt{3} \right|-\frac{1}{6}\ln \left| x-4-\sqrt{3} \right|+C\]

OpenStudy (idku):

Wait, why 1/12?

OpenStudy (idku):

I wasn;t factoring the 2 out of the LNs, I just used the ln(a*b)=ln(a)+ln(b)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

because you can factor out 1/2

OpenStudy (idku):

ohh, I should have done that before when integrated to get natural logs.. I see. because with 2(t+1) or -, the dt=2dx, and that would either require\[\frac{1}{12}\ln \left| x-4+\sqrt{3} \right|-\frac{1}{12}\ln \left| x-4-\sqrt{3} \right|+C\] sub or to factor, so it is now supposed to be

OpenStudy (idku):

I inserted the answer in a wrong place...

OpenStudy (idku):

t is supposed to be at the ens of the reply.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I got: \[\frac{ 1 }{ 12 }\ln \left| \frac{ x-4-\sqrt{3} }{ x-4+\sqrt{3} } \right|+C\]

OpenStudy (idku):

same...

OpenStudy (idku):

ty

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

sorry the signs are different

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

@idku

OpenStudy (idku):

yeah,, my bad....

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

@idku Thank you!

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