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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Absolutely no idea. |Graphing Rational Functions| http://gyazo.com/672aec44b53596cda4a51d80bb40cfe5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Hero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@agent0smith

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Loser66

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, do you know what a linear binomeal is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not quite.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

The equation of a line. So some mx+b thing.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Now, do you know what a rational function is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Isn't it just a regular function?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

No. The rational comes from ratio, which also sometimes means fraction. That is where the numerator and denominator part come in.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So am I going to be using proportions later on?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

No. Just going to make a fraction with a line equation on both the top and bottom, then graph it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = (6x-5) / (3x-2) would that work?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it y = or F(x) ?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I assume you mean f(x) because f(x) and F(x) have technically different meanings... Anyhow, either works and they said use a graphing utility, so: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/m6kzzwmhvu

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's my graph?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yep. As you can see, it uses the function you selected.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Now just do the whole asymptote and intercept calculations.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick It says Include the horizontal and vertical asympotes and the x- and y- intercepts on your graph. How would I do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have no idea what they mean by that.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, do you know what the intercepts are?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

X intercept, where the line goes through the X axis, Y is where it goes through the Y intercept.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes. Another way of saying that is (x?,0) and (0,y?), with the key points being that in each case you know what either x or y is: 0.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

If you put 0 in for x and solve for y, you have the y intercept. If you put 0 in for y and solve for x, you have the x intercept.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And how do I find the asympotes?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, have they gone over any of the asymptote calculations with you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not at all.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

They are actually not too hard. One has to do with the coefficents and the other has to do with where the denominatior (bottom) would be 0 (undefined).

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

See, asumptotes are lines that are not crossed. Now, horozontal ones might get crossed at some points, but the \(\infty\) and \(-\infty\) tails of the equation do not cross them. The vertical ones flat out do not get crossed. So to find the vertical one, when would the bottom of the fractio be invalid (0)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No idea. Would 0 be a choice? Since 0 is something involving extraenous equations?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, how you find it is set the bottom = to 0. So: 3x-2=0 What is that x value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.6 repeating

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Might as well leave it as a fraction, so 2/3. OK. On the graph, click on line 2 in the equaition list on the left. Then type in: x=2/3 When you do that, it will add the first asymptote.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Now, the other asymptote, since these have the same power on the first term, is y = the ratio of the coefficents. Let me write that out with letter.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

OK, so in this form: \(\Large y=\dfrac{m_1x_1+b_1}{m_2x_2+b_2}\) You have the two linar equations there. The ratio of the coefficents of the first term is: \(\Large y=\dfrac{m_1}{m_2}\) That is the horozontal asymptote. So if you pull those out of your one, you plug them in there and presto you have it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks. :> Sorry for the long responses, my internet keeps dying out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how would my equation look with the asympotes put in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm still super confused.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

=( Anyhow, if you follow those instuctions and add the horozontal and vertical to that graph, you will have it all on one. OH! And you can put in (x,y) point in the parentisis and it will put them as a point on the graph. Also, if you click the gear icon (Edit List) it brings up the settings so you could change the asymptotes to dashed ines. They are typically dashed on a drawing.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, you found the vertical one, x=2/3 What did you get for the horozontal one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

.83 repeating, which is 5/6

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Ummm... that is the top, which would be the x intercept, not ratio of the coefficents. It is the m part of the top over the m part of the bottom when both are lines. y=mx+b. That m.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to input 5/6 into an equation, don't I?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's not just standalone.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OH. It's 2!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

That is the x valuse of the x intercept. (0,5/6) y = (6x-5) / (3x-2) 0 = (6x-5) / (3x-2) 0 (3x-2) = (6x-5) 0= (6x-5) 0= 6x-5 5= 6x 5/6= x Therefore, when y=0, x = 5/6, which is the point: (5/6, 0) That is an intercept. What I was talking about was the ratio of the coefficents for the asymptote.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick One question about your lesson before i leave you aloen

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://gyazo.com/977980a8e353515ae2f31a20ab8bd2cb

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In the first equation with m1x1 + b1/ m2x2 + b2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can use y 1 and y2 as well?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And also, what's b2?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

There is no \(y_2\). It is a single function. I just did the right side with sub one and sub 2 because it was two linear equations in a ratio.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(y=\dfrac{\text{Linear equation one}}{\text{Linear equation two}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you sure I need to do all of this for my question? This is all foreign to me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I've never learned this.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

That part was just an example. To show you what was needed. Odd that they never went over all this. Your question asks for it all.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To recap: When it asks me to include my vertical and horizontal asympotes on the graph, I would label them? Would that work? And the X and Y intercepts, I would do the same.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

"Create a rational funtion with a linear binomeal in the numerator and denominator" That is the y = (6x-5) / (3x-2) part. "Graph using technology." That was the original graph. "Include the horozontal and vertal asymtotes" Well, to include them, you must find them. The horozontal is the \(m_1/m_2\) part and the vertical is solving the bottom for 0. "and the x- and y-intercepts) Well, that is the set x = 0 and solevm then set y = 0 and solve. Part 2: Show all your work... well... that should not be too hard if you do the work to find them. =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't thank you enough.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You might neeed to take a screen shot to label them. Now, did you ever find the ratio of \(m_1/m_2\)?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Oh, and if you want a reference to all of this, here is one: http://www.purplemath.com/modules/grphrtnl.htm If you go over that, you will see it is the same basic stuff I was doing. =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I never did. I'm going to bed, since it's a bit late in the UK. I'll be sure to contact you via PM to let you know how I do. :>

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm also going to leave this post open so I can use it for refernce

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You can also come back to closed ones. They are in the "Asked Questions" on your profile page. https://www.desmos.com/calculator/olj8mf6erf

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