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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@iambatman

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HELP?:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 arcsin x +C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what i got:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 arc sin sqrtx +C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 is it right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im not sure, i would complete the square for the denominator first

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think you can by pass the completing the square if you let u=sqrt(x) then u^2=x so 2u du=dx

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{ 2 u du}{u \sqrt{1-u^2}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so whats my final answer?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Oh nice !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its that?

OpenStudy (freckles):

recall that \[\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} dx=\arcsin(x)+C\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

Our u's up there canceled

OpenStudy (freckles):

and u was sqrt(x)

OpenStudy (freckles):

your answer is right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is correct?

OpenStudy (freckles):

2 arc sin sqrtx +C this second one you mentioned anyways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you need to put +C

OpenStudy (freckles):

or does it already put it on the outside of the box

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes its included in the problem alreay:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

outside of the box:)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks it is not arpreting `arc` correctly.... notice that it is slanty as regular text

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

*interpreting

OpenStudy (freckles):

so you think he should enter it in as \[\sin^{-1}(\sqrt{x})+C\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

2 times that

OpenStudy (freckles):

I don't know what font styles to look for

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

he got it right it seems since he is silent :) @liz_mustang

OpenStudy (freckles):

i guess math isn't in italic

OpenStudy (freckles):

or shouldn't be

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's strange, I got a different answer when I completed the square: sin^-1(2x -1) + C

OpenStudy (freckles):

answers can look different in integration

OpenStudy (freckles):

but that doesn't mean they are different

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see, do you have a reference that explains that in more detail? Wolfram got an answer that's really different.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol im refering to latex... regular text is italic but the commands understood by latex compiler are not italic latex command : \[\arcsin(x)\] latex regular text : \[arcsin(x) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\int \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{x}\sqrt{1-x}} dx = \int \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{x-x^2}} dx = \int \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{1-(2x-1)^2}} dx \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-x^2}}dx=\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{ 1}{\sqrt{-x^2+x+(\frac{1}{2})^2-(\frac{1}{2})^2}} dx \\ =\int\limits_{}^{} \frac{1}{\sqrt{-(x-\frac{1}{2})^2+\frac{1}{4}}} dx =\int\limits_{}^{} \frac{1}{\sqrt{\frac{1}{4}}} \frac{1}{\sqrt{-4(x-\frac{1}{2})^2+1}} dx \\ =\int\limits_{}^{}2 \frac{1}{\sqrt{-(2(x-\frac{1}{2}))^2+1}}dx =2\int\limits_{}^{} \frac{1}{\sqrt{-(2x-1)^2+1}} dx \\ \text{ \let } u=2x-1 \\ du=2 dx \\ \int\limits_{}^{} \frac{du}{\sqrt{1-u^2}} =\arcsin(u)+C =\arcsin(2x-1)+C\]arcsin(2x-1) and 2arcsin(sqrt(x)) should just differ by a constant off the top of my head I don't know what constant that is ...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Oh i see all these different answers might be related to the integration constnat

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\arcsin(2x-1)=2 \arcsin (\sqrt{x}) +C \\ 2x-1=\sin(2 \arcsin(\sqrt{x})+C ) \\ 2x-1 =\sin(2 \arcsin(\sqrt{x}))\cos(C)+\cos(2 \arcsin(\sqrt{x}))\sin(C) \] \[2x-1= \\ 2 \sin(\arcsin(\sqrt{x}))\cos(\arcsin(\sqrt{x}))\cos(C)+(\cos^2(\arcsin(\sqrt{x}))-\sin^2(\arcsin(\sqrt{x})))\sin(C) \\ \] \[2x-1=2 \sqrt{x} \sqrt{1-x}\cos(C)+(1-x-x)\sin(C) \\ 2x-1 =2 \sqrt{x}\sqrt{1-x}\cos(C)+\sin(C) \\\] Trying to see if I can find what constant a differ by

OpenStudy (freckles):

that one line got a little cut off

OpenStudy (freckles):

oops I made an error

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[2x-1=2 \sqrt{x} \sqrt{1-x}\cos(C)+(1-2x)\sin(C)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ahh i forgot almost all these inverse trig identities http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%282arcsin%28sqrt%28x%29%29+-+arcsin%282x-1%29%29%27

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think we want sin(C)=-1 and cos(C)=0 so C=3pi/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\arcsin(2x-1)=2\arcsin(\sqrt{x})+\frac{3\pi}{2}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

or I guess we could have said C was 3pi/2+2npi

OpenStudy (freckles):

wait maybe it shouldn't be 3pi/2 since arcsin is a number between -pi/2 and pi/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

-pi/2?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\arcsin(2x-1)=2\arcsin(\sqrt{x})-\frac{\pi}{2}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

lol I don't know but I think it should be a number C such that sin(C)=-1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

brilliant !!!! its working perfectly, when x = 0 : arcsin(-1) = -pi/2 as expected etc etc..

OpenStudy (freckles):

x=1/2 arcsin(2*1/2-1)=arcsin(0)=0 2arcsin(sqrt(1/2))-pi/2=2*pi/4-pi/2=pi/2-pi/2=0

OpenStudy (freckles):

i guess it does seem to work

OpenStudy (freckles):

I wish wolfram would have confirmed it as an identity though

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it is an identity, graph confirms http://gyazo.com/ce41ef8b8ea3932c6afb1db8736c0185

OpenStudy (freckles):

neatness

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