Prove that an even number cannot divide an odd number.
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OpenStudy (loser66):
Let m is an odd number then m can be expressed as m = 2k +1 for some k in Z
n is an even number, then n can be expressed as n = 2s for some s in Z
then we need prove \(2s\cancel{|} 2k+1\)
OpenStudy (loser66):
@FibonacciChick666
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
hey I think I can do this!!!!!
OpenStudy (loser66):
Please
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok what does the prime factorization of an even number always include?
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OpenStudy (loser66):
2
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok what primes will be included in an odd number's prime factorization?
OpenStudy (loser66):
3
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
or all odd primes :)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
what do we know about prime numbers?
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OpenStudy (loser66):
yup
OpenStudy (loser66):
gcd (a, b) =1
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok so you have an odd prime factorization and an even prime factorization, what number will never ever have a match?
OpenStudy (loser66):
I lost. :)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
lol it's ok, you'll see give me a sec
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
\(m=2k+1=p_1p_2p_3...p_m\) where p is an odd prime. \(n=2k=2p_1p_2p_3...p_n\) where p is an odd prime. (the primes can be to powers too, but I'm not typing that. you get the point
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
write m/n as it's prime factorizations.
OpenStudy (loser66):
Actually, the original problem is : Prove that if G be a finite group of odd order, then subgroups of G cannot have even order.
My work is
Let H <G, |G| = 2m +1
suppose |H| = 2n
suppose |H|| |G|, that is 2n |2m+1
then \(2m\equiv 1\) (mod 2n)
but \(2m\equiv 0\) (mod 2n)
hence \(0\equiv 1\) (mod 2n)
contradiction,
Hence \(2n\cancel{|} 2m+1\)
And I got full credit for this argument.
BUT SHAME ON ME. I review for final and don't get how \(2m\equiv 0\) (mod n\)
You see!! I am such a "good" student, hahaha....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
wait you don't get how 2m is 0 mod 2n?
OpenStudy (loser66):
I did, but not now, hahaha
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
oh lol that's a lot simpler than the one I was making ok what is 2mod2=?
OpenStudy (loser66):
0
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok how about 4 mod2?
OpenStudy (loser66):
0
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
6mod 2?
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OpenStudy (loser66):
0
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
10987654321098765432 mod 2
OpenStudy (loser66):
0
but it is 2n, not 2
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
hint it ends in a 2 :)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
how else can you write 6?
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OpenStudy (loser66):
2*3
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
okhow about 12?
OpenStudy (loser66):
2*6
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok, and how about 26?
OpenStudy (loser66):
2*13
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
doesn't that look just like 2 times a number? aka 2n
OpenStudy (loser66):
then?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
that's it. because it is even, it is 0 mod 2
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you should have used just 2 instead of 2n in my opinions, but your teacher didn't mind that
OpenStudy (loser66):
if it is 2, quite simple, I confuse when it is 2n
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok, so you have a generic even number
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
I actually don't think this works with 2n... O.O
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
I can explain using prime factorizations, but using mods I would so use 2
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
not 2n
OpenStudy (loser66):
hahaha... you confuse also....
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
oh wait
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
now i get it
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok i always get uber confused on proofs by contra
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
okkkk so if 2n|2m+1
we know that 2m+1=0mod 2n right?
OpenStudy (loser66):
yes
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
if it is divisible by 2n we have to have a 0 congruency, but we also know that 2m+1 is an odd number. That means that is has to be the same as 2m+1=1mod(2n)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
but when we subtract one from both we get 2m=0mod2n, which since 2m+1=0mod2n, attains our contradiction
OpenStudy (loser66):
Yeah... I think it is back to me, I got it . Thanks friend.