an integral.
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }{\rm Sin}^{-1}({\tiny~}\sqrt{x}{\tiny~~})~dx\]
So I am going to use an integration by parts. I will differentiate the sine function: \[y={\rm Sin}^{-1}({\tiny~}\sqrt{x}{\tiny~~})\]\[\sqrt{x}={\rm Sin}({\tiny~}y{\tiny~~})\]then the derivative, \[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}=y'\cos(y)\]|dw:1422049274243:dw|\[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}=y'\sqrt{x+1}\]\[\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x^2+x}}=y'\]
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }{\rm Sin}^{-1}(\sqrt{x})~dx=x{\rm Sin}^{-1}(\sqrt{x})-2\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]
Call \(u=\sqrt{x}\), then \(du = \frac{dx}{2\sqrt{x}}\), so that your integral now becomes: \[2*\int\limits_{}^{}u*asin(u)du\], now just solve by parts
it is an inverse sin.
yes asin = sin^-1
Not just sin. Also, the hint I was given is to use by parts.
oh, I was like... sorry
arcsin.. lol
hahah
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }{\rm Sin}^{-1}(\sqrt{x})~dx=x{\rm Sin}^{-1}(\sqrt{x})-2\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\] should be correct, if I didn't make silly errors.
I will find \[-2\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\] and put it together.
what u did is correct
oh, tnx
wait, \[u=x^2+x\] doesn';t work
Let me see if I can find this one. give me a bit time to think
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}+\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}-\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{(1/2)(2x+1)}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}-\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]
\[u=x^2+x\]for the first one: \[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{(1/2)}{\sqrt{u}}du-\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]
i don't think you should compare, cuz i made a substituion that makes things different
then, the first integral is going to be: \[\sqrt{x^2+x}+C-\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]
I think it isn't going bad.
Then I will solve \[\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\] (I will gather the pieces later)
ok let's try to solve that integral
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{1/2}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\] wait, you can't use partical fractions, correct?
you need to solve \[\int\limits_{}^{} \frac{ x }{ \sqrt{x^2 + x} }\]
i think you can't in this case
why do I have to solve that one, and not the one I posted?
your expression for the result of integration by parts only needs to solve that last integral so that you get teh answer
alright, lets do it from here.\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]without completing the fraction.
OK, let me think
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{\sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x+1}}~dx\]if that makes it any easier, but I doubt it.
oh wait,.
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{\sqrt{x}}{\sqrt{x+1}}~dx\] u=x+1 x=u-1 dx=du
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{\sqrt{u-1}}{\sqrt{u}}~du\]
not much -:( but at least something
how do you feel about trig substitution @idku?
i really don't see a simple way for solving this one
which ?
trig sub for \[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+x}}~dx\]
complete the square inside the sqrt( ) thingy and then apply a trig sub
are you familiar with trig subs?
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{(x+\frac{1}{4})^2}}~dx\]
x^2+x+(1/2)^2-(1/2)^2 (x+1/2)^2-1/4
Oh I left something out
\[\int\limits_{ }^{ }\frac{x}{\sqrt{(x+\frac{1}{4})^2-\frac{1}{16}}}~dx\]Am I right?
also here is another way to look at the integral if you prefer \[\int\limits \sin^{-1}(\sqrt{x}) dx \\ \text{ Let } y=\sin^{-1}(\sqrt{x}) \\ \sin(y)=\sqrt{x} \\ \cos(y) dy=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x}} dx \\ 2 \sqrt{x} \cos(y) dy =dx \\ 2 \sin(y) \cos(y) dy =dx \\ \sin(2y) dy=dx \\ \int\limits_{}^{} y \sin(2y) dy\]
I don't think that is correct
oh then by parts for the last thing you wrote?
\[x^2+x=x^2+x+(\frac{1}{2})^2-(\frac{1}{2})^2=(x+\frac{1}{2})^2-(\frac{1}{2})^2 \\ x^2=x=(x+\frac{1}{2})^2-\frac{1}{4}\]
yes you can do integration by parts there
and i think it will be tons easier than this other way
I think I got it from here. If anything I can use wolfram to check. ty that was indeed easier.
this is also what @M4thM1nd wrote above sorry didn't see that
didn't see he did it, but weither way I got the approach.
w should be there
tnx again
i got to go now, srry
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