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OpenStudy (wade123):

please explain this calc question!!

OpenStudy (wade123):

please explain step by step!! medal!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you want to find the line of the secant from x=-1 to x=1 first.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

First, find f(-1) and f(1). Then find the slope of this (secant) line (using the 2 end points).

OpenStudy (wade123):

can you explain how to do that...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you should be able to find f(1) and f(-1)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

or you want help with this ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

-15 and 15

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

f(1)=-15 f(-1)=15 correct. now, find the slope of the secant

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

using points (1,-15) and (-1,15) find the slope of the secant line. (just the slope formula)

OpenStudy (wade123):

-2/ 30 -1/15

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

slope is \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x} }\), and not the other way around.

OpenStudy (wade123):

oh sorry, -15

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes. -15 is the slope.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, you need to differentiate the f(x) (in this case x^3-16x) and set the derivative equal to -15.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

this will get you the x value(s) at which the slope is (also, just like the secant line) -15.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

sorry I am lagging all the time.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Can you take the derivative of \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle f(x)=x^3-16x}\) ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

yes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

ok, \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle f'(x)=?}\)

OpenStudy (wade123):

3x^2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

close

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you left something out

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what is the derivative of -16x ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

3x^2-16

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yup \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle f'(x)=3x^2-16}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you want to find the x value at which the slope is -15, so set f'(x)=-15. \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle f'(x)=3x^2-16}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle -15=3x^2-16}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Now, solve for x.

OpenStudy (wade123):

x=2/3?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

not really... i don't think so. steps: 1. add 16 to both sides 2. divide both sides by 3 3. take the square root of both sides.

OpenStudy (wade123):

oh! oops sorry it is .577

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

give me exact value (if that matters for your question)

OpenStudy (wade123):

0.577350269

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle -15=3x^2-16}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle 1=3x^2}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \frac{1}{3}=x^2}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \sqrt{\frac{1}{3}}=x}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \frac{\sqrt{1}}{\sqrt{3}}=x}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}=x}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

or to rationalize the denom. \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle \frac{\sqrt{3}}{3}=x}\)

OpenStudy (wade123):

okk

OpenStudy (wade123):

and now what?

OpenStudy (wade123):

@SolomonZelman ??

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you are done, you found this x value that has the same slope as the slope of the secant

OpenStudy (wade123):

so the mean value theorem does apply and x is sqrt3/3??

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yupp

OpenStudy (wade123):

theres only one x coordinate?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(based on what we've done, for the least part... (lol))

OpenStudy (wade123):

thanks!(:

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