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OpenStudy (anonymous):

for which values of x this converge http://puu.sh/fIjqD/964b4a42c9.png

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think the ratio test might help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i tried that, no help, can u try and see?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\text{ Let } L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}| \\ \text{ if } L<1 \text{ then } a_n \text{ converges } \\ \text{ if } L>1 \text{ then } a_n \text{ diverges } \\ \text{ if } L=1 \text{ test is inconclusive }\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1)! (10x-11)^{n+1}}{11^{n+1}} \cdot \frac{11^n}{n! (10x-11)^n }|\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1)! (10x-11)^{n+1}}{11^{n+1}} \cdot \frac{11^n}{n! (10x-11)^n }| \\ L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1) \cdot n! \cdot (10x-11)^n \cdot (10x-11) \cdot 11^n }{11 ^n \cdot 11 \cdot n! \cdot (10x-11)^n}|\] you should see alot of cancellation there

OpenStudy (freckles):

are you there? like is that the part you are stuck on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i'm here, i'm stuck here because this gives me lim n->infinity of 1/11 * (10x-11) * (n+1)!/n! = lim n->infinity of 1/11 * (10x-11) * infinity what do i do next?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@freckles

OpenStudy (freckles):

(n+1)!=(n+1)*n! so (n+1)!/n!=(n+1)

OpenStudy (freckles):

so we should be looking at \[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1)(10x-11)}{11}|\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL ye my bad im retard

OpenStudy (freckles):

for it doesn't matter what x is (n+1) is going to go to infinity right?

OpenStudy (freckles):

even if we consider 10x-11=0 which is when x=11/10 and run the ratio test again we will still get a similar result

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\text{ if } x=\frac{11}{10} \text{ we have } a_n=\frac{n!(0)^n}{11^n} =\frac{n!}{11^n}\] and \[\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}=\frac{(n+1)!}{11^{n+1}} \cdot \frac{11^n}{n!}=\frac{n+1}{11}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

and still goes to infinity when n goes to infinity

OpenStudy (freckles):

so it seems there is value x such that the series converges

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks i get what u mean, its 11/10

OpenStudy (freckles):

well I was saying it still diverges then

OpenStudy (freckles):

i meant to say it seems there is No value x

OpenStudy (freckles):

such that the series converges

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think there is 11/10, the only one

OpenStudy (freckles):

but if x=11/10 isn't a_n=n!/11^n

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}=\frac{(n+1)!}{11^{n+1}} \cdot \frac{11^n}{n!}=\frac{n+1}{11}->\infty \text{ as } n->\infty \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[L>1 \text{ so } a_n \text{ diverges when } x=\frac{11}{10}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

so for all n we have L>1

OpenStudy (freckles):

oops I mean the series diverges

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