Hi, can anyone help me out with alcohol and acidity?
@Kainui
I know that the less alkyl groups you have, the more acidic the alcohol is
That's true, can you explain why more alkyl groups make it less acidic?
and if we add halogens it will be a better acid
I believe it connects with the inductive effect and electronegativity
it gets harder to deprotonate
so alcohol with halogen will become more acidic, the better EN of the halogen is
Yeah, exactly, so which ones are you sort of unsure about here, it sounds like you know how to do this haha
I'm so indecisive about it
tbh
I think no.5 is the most acidic compound here, and no.2 is the less
between those I'm quite confused
I mean, what's the difference between 3 and 2?
they both have cl
Well there's a difference in their connectivity right?
oh, then if it's further than it's a better acid
right?
Well if it's further away then its affect on the acidity of the alcohol will be less, right?
right, then it will be more acidic
Yeah sorry I read what you wrote as backwards haha
oh lol
so the more EN the halogen is, the more acidic it is
right?
5>4>1>3>2?
does it make any sense?
Wait, I think I might be in a state of confusion let me straighten this out haha
hahah ok
When you remove the hydrogen from the alcohol you will be leaving a negative charge behind, correct? So the closer and more electronegative group to that alcohol will be more acidic. So you said 5 is the most acidic molecule there, but it doesn't have any halogens on it!
oh right!
so I would go for 2>3>4>1>5?
now that you made this all clear
the closesr and more EN the halogen is the more acidic it is
closer
Yeah since it will better absorb that extra negative charge left behind when you remove a hydrogen, making it a more stable product by comparison to the others. The only thing I am sort of doubting about is that #2 hypochlorous acid. I think that might be right, I just feel like it's so small that it's sort of hard to say haha
I know right?!
wow you really made my day start on a high note!
Thanks allot!
Haha glad I could help =)
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