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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hi, can anyone help me out with alcohol and acidity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Kainui

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know that the less alkyl groups you have, the more acidic the alcohol is

OpenStudy (kainui):

That's true, can you explain why more alkyl groups make it less acidic?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and if we add halogens it will be a better acid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I believe it connects with the inductive effect and electronegativity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it gets harder to deprotonate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so alcohol with halogen will become more acidic, the better EN of the halogen is

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah, exactly, so which ones are you sort of unsure about here, it sounds like you know how to do this haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm so indecisive about it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tbh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think no.5 is the most acidic compound here, and no.2 is the less

OpenStudy (anonymous):

between those I'm quite confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean, what's the difference between 3 and 2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they both have cl

OpenStudy (kainui):

Well there's a difference in their connectivity right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, then if it's further than it's a better acid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Well if it's further away then its affect on the acidity of the alcohol will be less, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, then it will be more acidic

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah sorry I read what you wrote as backwards haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the more EN the halogen is, the more acidic it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5>4>1>3>2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it make any sense?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Wait, I think I might be in a state of confusion let me straighten this out haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah ok

OpenStudy (kainui):

When you remove the hydrogen from the alcohol you will be leaving a negative charge behind, correct? So the closer and more electronegative group to that alcohol will be more acidic. So you said 5 is the most acidic molecule there, but it doesn't have any halogens on it!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so I would go for 2>3>4>1>5?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now that you made this all clear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the closesr and more EN the halogen is the more acidic it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

closer

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah since it will better absorb that extra negative charge left behind when you remove a hydrogen, making it a more stable product by comparison to the others. The only thing I am sort of doubting about is that #2 hypochlorous acid. I think that might be right, I just feel like it's so small that it's sort of hard to say haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know right?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow you really made my day start on a high note!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks allot!

OpenStudy (kainui):

Haha glad I could help =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it possible to give you medals? you deserve them way than I am

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