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OpenStudy (el_arrow):

show that the series diverges

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ n^2}{ 5n^2+4 }\]

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

hello could you help me?

OpenStudy (phi):

do you know the "ratio test" ?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

no but could we do it doing the geometric test?

OpenStudy (phi):

ratio test is easy http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/RatioTest.aspx

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

i see

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

so i would need to cross multiply right

OpenStudy (phi):

I'm testing to see if it's applicable here.

OpenStudy (phi):

Here is a list of tests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_tests#List_of_tests the very first one works the limit of the expression \[ \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{ n^2}{ 5n^2+4 } = ?\]

OpenStudy (phi):

to find the limit, divide top and bottom by n^2 to get \[ \frac{1}{5 + \frac{4}{n^2}} \] as n goes to infinity 4/n^2 goes to 0, and the expression to 1/5

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

the limit of the summand one?

OpenStudy (phi):

and the an infinite sum of 1/5's diverges to infinity yes, the "limit of summand" test

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

but wouldnt it be 1/9 because the 4/(1)^2 is 4 and 1/5+4 is 1/9?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

dont you replace n with the 1

OpenStudy (phi):

the problem is to show that as we add up the series (of numbers) the sum gets larger and larger (as large as you want if n is big enough), i.e. show the sum diverges. to do that, there are tests. the limit test says: find what number n^2/(5n^2 +4) approaches as n gets large.

OpenStudy (phi):

in other words, when n is a gazillion , what is the approximate value of n^2 / (5n^2 + 4) ?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

2

OpenStudy (phi):

how did you get 2?

OpenStudy (kainui):

I think the divergence test might be a pretty nice choice as well to consider.

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

no its saying .2

OpenStudy (phi):

yes 0.2 is the limit that means if you go out "far enough" you can imagine you are adding 1/5 + 1/5 + 1/5 +... forever. it should be clear that sum will go to infinity, right ? i.e. diverges.

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

yeah it much clearer now thanks phil

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