determine whether the series converges absolutely, converges conditionally or diverges
\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ (-1)^n *(2n)! }{ 5n!}\]
@perl need help with this problem
the answer is diverge but how do i proof or show it diverges?
try ratio test
by the way is the bottom 5*n! or (5n)!
it doesn't matter we would still use ratio test
but anyways let me know if you need anymore help
useful hints: (n+1)!=(n+1)*n! or you know like (2n+1)!=(2n+1)*(2n)!
HI!!
ratio if it is what you wrote, the terms don't go to zero, do they?
@freckles yes its 5*n!
@freckles sorry i was away from keyboard
its k still here
so i have the multiply the numerator and denominator
\[a_n=\frac{(-1)^n(2n)!}{5 \cdot n!} \\ a_{n+1}=\frac{(-1)^{n+1}(2[n+1])!}{5 (n+1)!} =\frac{(-1)^n(-1)(2n+2)!}{5(n+1)!}\\ =\frac{(-1)(-1)^n(2n+2) \cdot (2n+1) \cdot (2n)! }{5(n+1) \cdot n!}\]
\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}|=?\]
\[\frac{ (-1)^n (-1)(2n+2) }{ 5(n+1)! }/\frac{ (-1)^n * (2n)! }{ 5*n! } = \frac{ 10n+10 * n! }{ 10n(n+1)! }\]
sort of right?
I'm not quite sure how you got that
its indeterminate so we got to use l'hopital's rule 10+10n!/10n^2+10n!
\[\frac{(-1)\cancel{(-1)^n}(2n+2)(2n+1) \cancel{(2n)!}}{\cancel{5}(n+1) \cancel{n!}} \cdot \frac{\cancel{5} \cancel{n!}}{\cancel{(-1)^n} \cancel{(2n)!}}\]
oh
why 2n+1?
i mean where did you get it from?
remember n!=n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)! so if you have (2n)!=(2n)*(2n-1)*(2n-2)*(2n-3)*(2n-4)! or if you don't won't to write that many factors (2n)!=(2n)*(2n-1)! so if you have (2n+2)!=(2n+2)*(2n+1)*(2n)*(2n-1)*(2n-2)! or as I wrote it above (2n+2)!=(2n+2)*(2n+1)*(2n)!
like you know 15!=15*14*13*12! 16!=16*15! Like 2n+2=16 when n=7 so 16!=(2*7+2)!=(2*7+2)*(2*7+1)*(2*7)! you are just taking one away from the previous and tacking on a ! if you don't keep writing
oh okay so i got infinity as the result does that mean we have to use l'hopital's rule?
which part gave you infinity
\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} (2n+2)(2n+1)\]
and that is over (n+1) right
oh yes
but its like you basically have 4n^2/n=4n and yes 4n goes to infinity as n goes to infinity
and thats diverge
yep
no its indeterminate
L is definitely bigger than 1 here
whats the L? the limit?
I'm calling L=|-infty|=infty since that was the limit we got here L>1 which means it diverges
but its an infinity over infinity
yes but the top goes to infinity faster than the bottom
because it has a much larger value right?
x^2>x for large x
\[\frac{x^2}{x}-> \infty \text{ as } x-> \infty \]
the degree right
yes 2>1
what if we had \[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ n ^{10} }{ 10^{-n} }\]
do the n and the 10 cancel out
I would try ratio test again
like this \[\frac{ n ^{10}}{ 10^{-n} } * \frac{ 10^{-n} }{ n }\]
now you have to replace the n's in the first quotient with (n+1) like we did before
\[\frac{ n ^{10} }{ 10^{-n}} * \frac{ 10^{-(n+1)} }{ (n+1)^{10} }\]
ok well I was hoping you would replace the n's in the first quotient maybe fine we will find the recipocral of our limit I guess later
i didnt know you were suppose to replace the n's in both of them
my mistake
no you aren't
just the first quotient
let me redo it real quick
\[\frac{ (n+1)^{10} }{ 10^{-(n+1)}}*\frac{ 10^{-n} }{ n ^{10} }\]
\[L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}|=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1)^{10}}{10^{-(n+1)}} \cdot \frac{10^{-n}}{n^{10}}|\] great
you can cancel the 10^(-n) but you would be left with a 10^(-1) on bottom and you also have the ((n+1)/n)^10 to worry about that but that isn't too bad
so its always the first one that gets the n's replaced by n+1
yes that is what the a_(n+1) divided by a_n tells us to do
so i'll be left with (n+1)^10 / 10^1 * 1 / n^10
almost you have 10^(-1) on bottom
\[10^{-(n+1)}=10^{-n-1}=10^{-n}10^{-1}\]
the 10^(-n)'s will cancel
you will have 10^(-1) on bottom
\[L=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}|=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}|\frac{(n+1)^{10}}{10^{-(n+1)}} \cdot \frac{10^{-n}}{n^{10}}| \\= \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}| \frac{1}{10^{-1}} (\frac{n+1}{n})^{10}| \\ =\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 10 (\frac{n+1}{n})^{10}\]
now find the limit as n->infty inside the ( ) part
you basically have n/n since n is really really large n/n=?
infinity over infinity
do you know what 5/5=? or 5252352/5252352=?
n/n=1
\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}10(1)^{10}=10(1)=10\]
L=10>1
but dont you add the 1+1?
I'm not sure why you are asking that
where does 1+1 come from
pretend n is large n+1 is approximately n you have n/n and n/n=1
this is the same method I used before you basically had 4n^2/n for the previous one and this simplified to 4n
n+1/n = n/n + 1/n = 1
well that is actually 1+0=1
now 1+1
not*
okay and since its greater than 1it converges?
no if L>1 then it diverges
you have 10(1)=10>1
it says converges on the back of the book
what did we wrong?
\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^{10}}{10^{-n}} \text{ diverges }\]
yeah i think it diverges too i dont know why it says converge
can we do one more?
did you give the correct problem above
\[\sum_{n =1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n-1}\frac{ \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }^{n} }{ n^2}\]
yeah everything is typed in right
ok I'm going to give you a chance to play with it i be right back
alright for this next one \[-1^{n+1-1}\frac{ \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }^{n+1} }{ (n+10)^2 } * -1^{n-1}\frac{ n^2 }{ \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }^n }\]
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