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OpenStudy (el_arrow):

need help finding the derivative

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

the problem is \[\frac{ \tan \frac{ 1 }{ x } }{ \frac{ 1 }{ x } }\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{\tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)}{\frac{1}{x}} }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle x\tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right) }\)

OpenStudy (chaise):

You could also use the product rule if it is easier. \[xtan(1/x)\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

now, the product rule

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

the answer is \[\frac{ \sec^2\frac{ 1 }{ x }*\frac{ -1 }{ x^2 } }{ \frac{ -1 }{ x^2 } }\]

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

i dont get how it got that

OpenStudy (chaise):

If I tell you the derivative of tan(x)=sec^2(x), does that help?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle x\tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right) }\) the answer is: \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle 1\times \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)+x\times \sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\times \left(-\frac{1}{x^2}\right) }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

using the chain rule, and I know that d/dx tan(x)= sec^2(x), tnx

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

yeah i know the derivative of tan is sec^2 but where do the negative ones come from

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am using the chain rule, because it is tangent of (x^(-1) )

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

and why are they squared

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

d/dx x^(-1) = (-1)x^(-1-1) = -1/x^2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and sec^2(1/x) is the derivative of tan(1/x) without the chain rule

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and with the chain rule, d/dx tan(1/x) = sec^2(1/x) * (-1/x^2)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so, that component (derivative of tan(1/x) ) is used in the product rule

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left(x\times \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)~~\right) ~~~= }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle 1\times \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)+x\times \sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\times \left(-\frac{1}{x^2}\right) }\)

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

is it suppose to be sec^2(1/x) * tan(-1/x^2) then or did something happen to the tan?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

no, we aren't changing the angle

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

lets look at the derivative of tan(1/x) again, ok?

OpenStudy (jdoe0001):

I supposed one could \(\bf \cfrac{ tan \left( \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right) }{ \frac{ 1 }{ x } }\implies tan \left( \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right)\cdot \left( \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right)^{-1}\implies tan \left( \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right)\cdot \left( \frac{ x }{ 1 } \right)^{+1} \\ \quad \\ tan \left( \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right)\cdot x\implies tan(x^{-1})\cdot x\) and apply the chain-rule to that, along witht he product rule

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left( \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)~~\right) ~~~= }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \color{blue}{\sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)}\times \color{red}{\frac{d}{dx}\left[\frac{1}{x}\right]} }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\times \color{red}{\left(-\frac{1}{x^2}\right)} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the blue is the derivative of the entire argument and in red we are taking the chain rule

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

okay

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so, \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left( \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)~~\right) ~~~=~~~\frac{-1}{x^2}\sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right) }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and then the use of product rule

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

so your using the chain rule instead of the quotient rule

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

no

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the chain rule is for the angle of 1/x (because it is not just tan(x), but rather tan(1/x) ) the quotient rule we didn't use, not because we used the chain rule, but because we re-write what you had initially as x tan(1/x) and then used the product rule.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left( x\tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)~~\right) ~=~\color{magenta}{1}\times \tan\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)+x\times\color{magenta}{\frac{-1}{x^2}\sec^2\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(in pink are the derivatives )

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and all that is remaining to do, is to simplify it

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

wait where did the x in front of the tan(1/x) come from?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

that is your initial function

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

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