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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Using series? Help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the first one we can compare it sum 1/n since 1/n > 1/root (n^2+1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay sounds good so far :)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

1/n is harmonic series that diverges therefore the series must diverge by the comparison test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I understand that :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What about the second one?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmm the second how about you do what they asked limit comparison test \[\lim_{n\to \infty }\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}\]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so what will that be?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

well the first i actually did the comparison test rather than limit comparison test

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

what a_n+1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n+3?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmm n+3 what do yo mean?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

well the top will be n+3 but i'm asking the whole thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure... heh. .he.h..he.h.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would you just add one to the original equation?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

well just replace n with n+1 \[a_n=\frac{n+2}{(n+1)^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(n+3) / (n+2) ^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I get you bro

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes good!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no divide that be a_n because we want a_n+1/a_n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How does that help? :)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we will take the limit!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

if the limit is some number L then the series must converge if it 0 or infinity no conclusion

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

that is the limit comparison test tells us

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got that the limit converge to 1?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

then the series must converge

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does the property state ( the limit comparison) that the series may both converge OR diverge?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But what do we compare it to?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

your question is somehow off they are asking to use those series to check the convergence of the wanted series but they want it with limit comparison test that should of been comparison test not limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or I think they are asking for the limit we compare it to... then we can use the limit comparison theorem? All the series they provide can be determined if they are convergent or divergent by the p-series test.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, I'm confused xD

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I'm not getting your point here but the limit comparison test tells us that if the limit is finite and is L a_n approax equal La_n+1 if one converges so does the other by the boundness theorem i believe

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

here seems to me they want to do comparison test

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

reference http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/SeriesCompTest.aspx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay your way works too! Yeah

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so you want to do regular comparison test? or limit comparison test in fact limit comparison test is much powerful than the regular all you need is to find the limit if it finite and positive then the series converge

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

at any rate first conveges let's the second with what series can we compare it to

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{\sqrt{n^2+1}}\] does not converge

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

oh you know i see it is my mistake actually , the way i did this was different so the first we would have done \[\lim \frac{\frac{1}{\sqrt{n^2+1}}}{1/n}\]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

of course does not converge harmonic series did i say the opposite? lol

OpenStudy (zarkon):

look right above my post

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hehe slept over that, i did say from the start that it diverges though thanks for the correction

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the second as will i would compare it with 1/n

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so divergent as a result

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the third with 1/n^3/2 what I'm really doing here is looking at the leading terms of top and bottom and decide which series would work

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

but doesn't work all the time i believe here 1/n^3/2 is convergent series (3/2>1) p series if you recall

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the real work you should take the limit as i did above before you draw the conclusion though

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

just giving you where this is going...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I did... Thank you very much, I think I got it now (:

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