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iYuko (iyuko):

A RePost from @KonradZuse Original post: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/513b9bd3e4b01c4790d2149c Cheating and Education, how do we stop Cheating, while making students WANT to learn?

iYuko (iyuko):

Cross posted from here http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/5137a46fe4b01c4790d01ba4 Why do students cheat? Why can't we get students to learn, and enjoy learning? As a student who has HATED the "educational system" for a very long time, and as someone who WANTS TO LEARN WHAT I NEED IN LIFE let me explain a few things. First let me explain who I am. I am a computer science graduate who works for a few companies, as well as contracting work. I work mostly for a plannogram company that builds store layouts for stores such as Walmart, Target, and Best Buy. When I went to school I went to aprivate school, and then went to public HS. The "education" was a joke. You learned math, science, and "English" for 8 years, then you came into hs and learned the same things for another 4 years. College came oooh I'm excited maybe I will learn something, but no, I come in paying 10's of thousands of dollars to a institution, only to teach me 23 CLASSES (69 or so) credits of 120 credit major, was (DECS) General Education GARBAGE. My first coding class in 11th grade was nothing more than a complete joke. We spent the entire time planning an RPG game, but spent a month learning how to code nothing, let along a full scale GUI game. I came into College with a bright outlook, but was shot down. In my "computer science" classes we learned useless theory, and no code. Code was something we did on our own, or if it was my second semester they did the code for us, and gave uis that bright A, as if we accomplished something. The problem is I learned nothing. I came into school, from the age of 3, knowing I wanted to be a software engineer/computer architect like my father, but was shot down my entire educational career. I told myself the only way to learn, is to learn on my own, which is what I did, and I am here now. So what does this mean to you, and why am I mentioning it with cheating? The simple answer is because they are learning something, so incredibly boring, they have no interest to even ATTEMPT the work. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, AND WHY I ALWAYS BRING IT UP. http://openstudy.com/users/konradzuse#/updates/51003511e4b00c5a3be69f64 is where we discussed the online bill of rights. Why do students not care about their education? How do we get students to "want to learn?" Teach them things that actually interest them. If I work or learn something I don't care about I'll give 20% attention to it, so if that translates to the work world I only give 20% output in my job, that loses my boss money, and eventually I get fired. When I learn something I want to learn, and it interests me I give it 150%. So when I'm working on my programming assignments that I have to do for my clients, I make sure to give my all, because I'm having a ton of fun, and I'm enjoying work. "Work isn't work if it's fun." is a quote I live by. Please read this article about MBA's http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323884304578328243334068564.html?KEYWORDS=mba I quote from this article "When you are competing against 3.5 billion people, it pays to be different. But getting another university degree doesn't make you different." We are teaching our students to be zombies and to all be the same, this is the problem. Teach us, and our kids ACTUAL SKILLS NEEDED FOR THE REAL WORLD. TEACH KIDS THINGS THEY WANT TO LEARN, MAKE THEM "INTERESTED" IN THE FIELDS. I am a computer scientist, and I really want to know why I needed 20 years of History classes. My 1 semester of History of Computer Science was FASCINATING, guess where I got the name "Konrad Zuse" from? I enjoyed it, I loved it, I watched it so close, so hard, because I wanted to. I took a class that I wanted, and I learned from it, why can't everyone have that same choice? Again I am the lucky one. I knew from the age of 3 that I wanted to do computers, and I made sure I learned the skills needed, on my own. The thing is what about the students who don't know what they want? I know College juniors and seniors who don't know what they want, and guess what we now have another unemployed person with no skills out there. That or they go to the army. TRUST ME on this one, if the educational system actually taught us useful skills, and taught us how to persue the path WE WANT I GUARANTEE you will ELIMINATE, or come close to it, cheating. ~KonradZuse

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Credit to @konradZuse :) this is very good and detailed

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