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OpenStudy (babynini):
OpenStudy (babynini):
@freckles
OpenStudy (babynini):
@rational
OpenStudy (babynini):
oh I know where I calculated wrong.
in that
c/a and forgot that a was =4 and not 2
OpenStudy (babynini):
would it be
b^2 = 2?
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OpenStudy (babynini):
nope that's not right either.
OpenStudy (babynini):
@rvc do you know how to do these?
OpenStudy (babynini):
@jim_thompson5910
rvc (rvc):
bad at circle and conics
sorry :(
OpenStudy (babynini):
Thanks for looking at it though. Ah well.
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rvc (rvc):
@divu.mkr help please :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
first off we find a from the major axis
a= 4
then we find c by looking at the eccentricity
c/a = sq7/2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
focii on y axis means that the major axis is on Y aix and you are given with the length of major axis and ecc.. you can find minor axis from that data
OpenStudy (anonymous):
axis**
OpenStudy (alekos):
It would have a vertical major axis so (x-h)^2/b^2 + (y-k)^2/a^2 =1
where 2b=8
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OpenStudy (babynini):
how do I find the minor axis in there?
OpenStudy (alekos):
eccentricity = sqrt(a^2-b^2)/a
OpenStudy (anonymous):
b^2 = a^2(1-e^2)
OpenStudy (alekos):
so from this you can find the minor axis
OpenStudy (babynini):
hmm
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OpenStudy (alekos):
focii are on the y-axis so h=0
OpenStudy (babynini):
so
x^2/8 + y^2/16 = 1
OpenStudy (babynini):
is that the answer?
OpenStudy (babynini):
@iambatman save me. lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Hollllllaaaa
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OpenStudy (babynini):
aloo
OpenStudy (anonymous):
major axis = 8 ye?
OpenStudy (babynini):
I just need to find an equation :P
OpenStudy (babynini):
yeah
OpenStudy (babynini):
major axis = 2a
so a = 4
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes good :P
\[e = \frac{ c }{ a } ~~~\text{and}~~~ c^2 = a^2-b^2\]
yes yes this looks good, it will work out nicely
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok so notice we're given the eccentricity (e) and it tells us the Foci is on the y - axis, this is important because the foci are ALWAYS on the major axis. So will the major axis run vertically or horizontally?
OpenStudy (babynini):
vertically?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That sounds good, so what should we do next
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You should already realize an error in your work with that information
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OpenStudy (babynini):
a should be the bigger one?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You're too good :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
Aw, shucks.
OpenStudy (babynini):
so what numbers do i flip around?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Well lets find b first
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
To do that we have \[e = \frac{ c }{ a }\] and \[c^2 = a^2 - b^2\]
OpenStudy (babynini):
e = sq7/2
but we're given that a = 4 so do we double that whole thing?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What was that cute game we were playing earlier? I had a name for it
OpenStudy (babynini):
lol substitution?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah that's it ;)
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OpenStudy (babynini):
but we're given the e!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So what's stopping you from solving for c :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
no b?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
We have a and e!
OpenStudy (babynini):
ooh oh
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OpenStudy (babynini):
sq7/2=c/4
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:))))
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So what will be our c value?
OpenStudy (babynini):
sq14?
OpenStudy (babynini):
\[2\sqrt{7}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Looks good, now what's our next step :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
find b!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Right, and how will we do that
OpenStudy (babynini):
so that's just c, not c^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes good observation!
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OpenStudy (babynini):
so now
c^2=a^2+b^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Stop right there for a second!
OpenStudy (babynini):
o.o yes sir.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Lets look at the equation you said, what is that for :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
c
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ircle
OpenStudy (babynini):
lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That's where a lot of people make mistakes, for an ellipse it's \[c^2 = a^2 - b^2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Note the negative sign
OpenStudy (babynini):
o.o gasp. that is no bueno.
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OpenStudy (babynini):
b^2=a^2-c^2 then
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:), now remember as I always say it's a game of substitution
OpenStudy (babynini):
\[b^2 = 16 - (2\sqrt{7})^2\]
OpenStudy (babynini):
\[b^2 = 16-28\]
\[b^2=-12\]
OpenStudy (babynini):
\[b=\sqrt{12}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
No, the negative is there, something is wrong
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Err, \[e = \frac{ c }{ a } \implies c = e \times a \implies c = \frac{ \sqrt{7} }{ 4 } \times 4 \implies \sqrt{7}\] bleh :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
..oh hehe
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I guess I should be doing the math as well haha
OpenStudy (babynini):
sorry!
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OpenStudy (babynini):
ai ai ai I need to go to bed soon. waay to early on a school night =.= and you do too.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No it's alright we just had mistaken the eccentricity we had sqrt(7)/2 when it's 4 :P
OpenStudy (babynini):
oh xD
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't worry about me :), I'm the dark knight, night is where I work muahah!
OpenStudy (babynini):
right, right, how could I forget!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Alright so lets find b again bleh :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[b^2 = a^2-c^2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[a = 4~~~c = \sqrt{7}\]
OpenStudy (babynini):
b = 3
OpenStudy (babynini):
b^2 = 9
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Now that looks good
OpenStudy (babynini):
so..the answer I had at the very beginning. Look at the screenshot thing =.=
OpenStudy (anonymous):
major axis runs vertically :P
OpenStudy (babynini):
ooh myy goooshh aspidghpaihgpi
OpenStudy (babynini):
fricken hour later hahahah
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
It's ok, the struggle is more important than the final answer, you will remember how to do it now :)