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OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

How do I solve this system of equations 2x^2+y^2=33 x^2+y^2+2y=19

OpenStudy (freckles):

I would attempt to eliminate the x^2 term and solve for y first then go back and solve for x

OpenStudy (freckles):

notice if you multiply the second equation by -2 you will be able to then add the equations together to eliminate the x^2 term

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

I did that but I got y=sqrt5

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

then I plugged it back into the first equation to solve for x and it came out as x=15.4

OpenStudy (freckles):

I'm not seeing how you obtained that

OpenStudy (freckles):

can you should your work so I can see how you first obtained y

OpenStudy (freckles):

If you wouldn't mind what do you get right after you add the two equations (you know after the second one has been multiplied by -2)

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

2x^2+sqrt5=33 -sqrt5 -sqrt5 2x^2=30.76 divide by 2 on both sides and take the square root! (I forgot about that) So it would be x=sqrt 15.38

OpenStudy (freckles):

how did you get sqrt(5)?

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

After adding the equations I get -y^2=-5

OpenStudy (freckles):

2x^2+y^2=33 x^2+y^2+2y=19 first step multiply second equation by -2 2x^2+y^2=33 -2x^2-2y^2-4y=-38 now add the equations y^2-2y^2-4y=33-38 simplify -y^2-4y=-5 multiply both sides by -1 to make it prettier y^2+4y=5 now subtract 5 on both sides y^2+4y-5=0

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

I got square root 5 because I multiplied both sides by -1 and then took the square root to get y=sqrt5

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

So y^2 +4y=5

OpenStudy (freckles):

you can factor y^2+4y-5

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

Help me with that?

OpenStudy (freckles):

what two numbers multiply to be -5 and add up to be 4?

OpenStudy (freckles):

think -5 can be written as the following: -5(1) or 5(-1) -5+1=? 5+(-1)=?

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

-4 or 4

OpenStudy (freckles):

so which pair of numbers satisfy my question?

OpenStudy (freckles):

"what two numbers multiply to be -5 and add up to be 4?"

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

oh 5 and -1

OpenStudy (freckles):

y^2+4y-5=0 (y+5)(y-1)=0

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

(x+5) (y-1) = 0

OpenStudy (freckles):

so now you just set both factor equal to 0 y+5=0 or y-1=0

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

y=-5 and or y=1

OpenStudy (freckles):

sounds great now you can go back and find x so use either equation Let's just use the first one 2x^2+y^2=33 replace y with -5 then solve for x then after you have completed that step replace y with 1 then solve for x

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

x=2

OpenStudy (freckles):

you will have two different solutions two different ordered pairs (x,-5) and (x,1) where you have to solve for both of those x's

OpenStudy (freckles):

actually you might end up with 4 solutions since x has a square on it

OpenStudy (freckles):

yep there is one more solution to x^2=4 I assume that is where you got x=2 from

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

x also =-2

OpenStudy (freckles):

so we have (2,-5) and (-2,-5) now we need to solve for x when y is 1

OpenStudy (freckles):

you can still use 2x^2+y^2=33

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

uh y=sqrt31

OpenStudy (freckles):

did you replace x with 1?

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

yeah

OpenStudy (freckles):

remember we had y=-5 or y=1 this is why we are trying to find when x when y=-5 and also why we are trying to find x when y=1

OpenStudy (freckles):

in other words we never said anything about x being 1

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[2x^2+y^2=33 \\ 2x^2+1^2=33 \\ 2x^2+1=33\] solve for x

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

2(1)^2+Y^2=33 2(1)^2=2 RIGHT? then 2+y^2=33 minus 2 from both sides then take the square root so y=sqrt31

OpenStudy (freckles):

why are you replacing x with 1? we never said anything about x being 1

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

Oh lol, I get x=4 after setting y=1

OpenStudy (freckles):

or also?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I assume you got that from x^2=16

OpenStudy (freckles):

but there is one more solution to that

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

x=-4

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[(2,-5); (-2,-5) ; (-4,1);(4,1)\]

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

sweet

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

okay now the question is which one of these is in quadrant 4 of the graph?

OpenStudy (freckles):

the first two pairs come from replacing the y with -5 and solving for x (got x=2 or -2) and the last two pairs come from replacing the y with 1 and solving for x (got x=4 or -4)

OpenStudy (freckles):

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OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

(2,-5)

OpenStudy (freckles):

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OpenStudy (freckles):

yep sounds great

OpenStudy (cutiecomittee123):

Yes:)

OpenStudy (nottim):

lol this again

OpenStudy (freckles):

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