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OpenStudy (anonymous):
A limit (challenge) problem for smart people.
In the question n is an integer
Condition:-
Try to solve it in not more than 3-4 steps.
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Is \(n\) an integer ?
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes n is an integer. :)
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
0
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no
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OpenStudy (dan815):
infinity
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
pi
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OpenStudy (dan815):
e,
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
u need to show your method , don't just give out answers like a idiot
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
lulz :)
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OpenStudy (dan815):
maybe complex numbers i dont like the root in there
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no real sollution :)
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
you can get real solution from that
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OpenStudy (dan815):
is it indeterminate?
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
is the answer even converging
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no there is a answer
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OpenStudy (dan815):
okay then ill work on it : )
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
It dosen't have stupid answers like it does not exist etc
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OpenStudy (trojanpoem):
No.name is right. It got answer.
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You got the answer @TrojanPoem
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
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OpenStudy (trojanpoem):
Nearly , but more than 3 steps.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
its ok tell your answer
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
im getting pi but im still messing wid it
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@ganeshie8 you are correct !
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
psh i already guessed pi lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok , before i post my sollution , how did u get it @ganeshie8
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
bit embarrassing i kno
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OpenStudy (trojanpoem):
haha @ganeshie8 Like ++
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You made my day @ganeshie8 :)
10 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
I'm glad you find it was entertaining :)
please provide a hint as im kinda stuck..
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no problem , never mind
Well the hint is itself the whole sollution , so let me post the sollution itself ok?
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
no odont
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
^
give us some time
10 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah don't give up so easily , u will get it!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
After giving hint it is easy , so i will not give any hint :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok a small hint
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
nope wait almost there
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't even think of binomial expansions , you will get the answer no doubt , but that's a waste of time and space
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large{\begin{align}&\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}~n*\sin(2\pi\sqrt{n^2+1})\\~\\
&=\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}~n*\sin(2\pi(\sqrt{n^2+1}-n)+2n\pi)\\~\\
&=\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}~n*\sin(2\pi(\sqrt{n^2+1}-n))\\~\\
&=\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}~n*\sin\left(\frac{2\pi}{\sqrt{n^2+1}+n}\right)\\~\\
\end{align}}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
next i want to use sinx/x limit but im gonna need more paper, one sec..
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OpenStudy (dan815):
its so weird i cant believe the 1 is skewing it form 2pi to pi
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OpenStudy (dan815):
for a big number sqrt(1+n^2) is pretty much sqrt(n^2)
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OpenStudy (dan815):
so i said it was just n*sin(2pi*n) and thats inf * 0 so from lohopitals ud get 2pi
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OpenStudy (dan815):
but that +1 in there changed it to pi O_O still working
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
I just figured out a really neat way to solve this w/o using lhopital xD
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
are you squaring and sqrting the whole limit
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OpenStudy (dan815):
or k^2=1+n^2!
10 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
nvm its not working, was trying to interpret the given expression as a variation of area of regular polygon formula... but no success
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
as \(n\to\infty\), the regular polygon becomes an unit circle evaluating the limit to \(\pi\)
thought it would be that simple but looks tricky to conclude like that
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OpenStudy (dan815):
ya not sure what im doing wrong, i keep getting 2pi again
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OpenStudy (dan815):
look at my work, can u spot something wrong?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
okie
10 years ago
OpenStudy (dan815):
|dw:1434988291816:dw|
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