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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Algebra Question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If \[\frac{ a }{ 2 } + \frac{ b }{ 2 } = 3 \] what is the value of 2a +2b?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I haven't really been able to get anywhere on it, any form of help will help :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u still there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do u think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah im back sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@slade well I don't really have any idea on how to start

OpenStudy (freckles):

I dare you to multiply both sides by 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats how u do it right there

OpenStudy (freckles):

double dog dare you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what would that do? um okaay 3 x 4 = 12 on the right but i don't know how to multiply the fractions :/

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you know what 4/2=?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes 2

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[4(\frac{a}{2}+\frac{b}{2}) \\ =\frac{4}{2}a+\frac{4}{2}b=? \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a/2 and b/2 x 4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah gotcha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2a + 2b is what i get! and that means it eqauls 3 !!

OpenStudy (freckles):

no

OpenStudy (freckles):

3(4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but what would make me multiply each side by 4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah 12

OpenStudy (freckles):

to solve for 2a+2b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I like your approach @freckles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 * 4 =?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dare you all to learn math :-D double dog dare at that :-D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to solve yes but where did you think of 4 why not 3? like is there a specific reason or thats just how algebra works? common factor what was it?

OpenStudy (freckles):

well 4(a/2+b/2) would give me what I want which is 2a+2b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm trying nixy lol

OpenStudy (freckles):

but if I multiply one side by 4 I have to multiply the other side by 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah yes that is true that is how to get the end result

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you want to give you a problem that is similar ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@kevinhunterwood69 it is hard work but if you keep at it, it will get easier :-D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i am

OpenStudy (freckles):

solve for 6a+9b given \[2a+3b=-1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no one is listening to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol there

OpenStudy (freckles):

goodbye @slade :(

OpenStudy (freckles):

@kevinhunterwood69 do you notice how to find the value of 6a+9b yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so I did: solve for 6a + 9b given: 2a + 3b = -1 work: 2a + 3b = -1 3 (2a + 3b) = -1(3) 6a + 9b = -3 answer: -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

was that correct?

OpenStudy (freckles):

omg brilliant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

math is fun when i can finally understand algebra

OpenStudy (freckles):

good job I bet if that was the problem you had you would have had no problems do you think the fractions throw you off ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes def fractions have always been a struggle to understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

square roots too but mostly fractions

OpenStudy (freckles):

try this one: \[\text{ If } a+\frac{b}{3}=4 \text{ then what is the value of } 21a+7b\] (this will has a fraction in it; let's see if it throws you off any this time )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i move 3 to the other side will it be on top?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually wait i can't do that right ugh um if i move b let me see

OpenStudy (freckles):

so you want to multiply both sides 3 to remove the fraction you can do that 3a+b=12 but we still are not done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all i know is im trying to get constants on one side and variables on the other right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry what

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you get 3a and b lost its 3? oh you moved the 3 from b next to a?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[a+\frac{b}{3}=4 \\ \text{ if you don't like the fraction there you can always multiply both sides by } \\ \text{ what is \in the denominator of that fraction } \\ 3(a+\frac{b}{3})=3(4) \\ 3(a)+3(\frac{b}{3})=3(4) \\ 3a+b=12\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes that explains it! thanks so much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well 3a i understand actually haha 3(b/3) = b?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[3(\frac{b}{3})=3 \cdot \frac{b}{3}=\frac{3}{1} \cdot \frac{b}{3}= \frac{3}{3} \cdot \frac{b}{1}=1 \cdot b =b \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

basically in summary 3/3=1 so you are left with 1*b which is just b

OpenStudy (freckles):

like in your problem we had above we had: \[\frac{a}{2}+\frac{b}{2}=3 \\ \text{ we could have cleared the fractions before finding what we wanted } \\ \text{ by multiplying both sides by 2} \\ 2(\frac{a}{2}+\frac{b}{2})=2(3) \\ 2 \frac{a}{2}+2 \frac{b}{2}=2(3) \\ a+b=6\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i follow up to the point 3/3 = b/1 why does b not become 3b? like 3/3 = 3b/1 ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

anything over itself is 1 (well except 0)

OpenStudy (freckles):

well 3/3 *b =b

OpenStudy (freckles):

first do you know that 3/3=1 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no time for jokes lol

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{3}{3}=1 \\ \text{ so if I multiply both sides by } b \text{ we have } \\ \frac{3}{3}b=1 b\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

is this not answering your question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we were at 3a + b = 12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and m trying to figure out what is 21a + 7b so

OpenStudy (freckles):

right and we want 21a+7b 's value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

any if you multiply both sides by s_v__ you will get?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I didn't put the full word there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah seven

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a second

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we multiply 12 by 7 that means :O

OpenStudy (freckles):

yep! :)

OpenStudy (freckles):

just so you know we could have figured out 21a+7b in one step

OpenStudy (freckles):

instead of two

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya so 21a + 7b = 84

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[a+\frac{b}{3}=4 \\ \text{ we wanted } 21a+7b \\ \text{ so we could have just multiplied 21 on both sides \to \begin with } \\ 21a+21(\frac{b}{3})=21(4) \\ 21a+7b=84\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow

OpenStudy (freckles):

anyways keep practicing and numbers will become easier to play with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for all the extra practice!

OpenStudy (freckles):

np :) these can get a lot funnier I promise \[\text{ assume } a \text{ and } b \text{ are positive } \\\text{ if } a^2+2ab+b^2=4 \text{ then what is } (a+b)^4 \text{ or what is } a+b \] I think they can even get funnier than that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uh lol

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[a^2+2ab+b^2=(a+b)^2 \text{ is the trick there }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

welp i'll go back to this sat book

OpenStudy (freckles):

k k have fun :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and ponder on about the funny stuff in math lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thx frecks

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