Show that: −ln(x−x2−1−−−−−√)=ln(x+x2−1−−−−−√)
\[-\ln (x-\sqrt{x ^{2}-1})=\ln(x+\sqrt{x ^{2}-1})\]
I dont think this is true
how do i prove it?
plug in 2 on both sides
or 1 would be easier
err 1 is a solution
so plug in anything besides 1
ok
they cancel each other
\[-\ln (2-\sqrt{3})=\ln (2+\sqrt{3})\]
those are not the same thing
\(-\ln (2-\sqrt{3})=\ln (2+\sqrt{3})\\\implies \ln (\frac{1}{2-\sqrt{3}})=\ln (2+\sqrt{3})\\\implies \frac{1}{2-\sqrt{3}}=2+\sqrt{3}\)
hmmm http://fooplot.com/#W3sidHlwZSI6MCwiZXEiOiItbG4oeC1zcXJ0KHheMi0xKSkiLCJjb2xvciI6IiMxRjJDQkEifSx7InR5cGUiOjAsImVxIjoibG4oeCtzcXJ0KHheMi0xKSkiLCJjb2xvciI6IiNGN0Y3MEEifSx7InR5cGUiOjEwMDAsIndpbmRvdyI6WyIwLjMzNDIzMzYwMDAwMDAwMDEzIiwiMy43NDIxMDU2MDAwMDAwMDA0IiwiLTAuMzkzMjE2IiwiMS43MDM5MzYwMDAwMDAwMDAzIl19XQ-- shows that they actually are
I don't believe it. But then again it is summer and I have been out of school for a month...
\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle -\ln(x-\sqrt{x^2-1})=\ln(x+\sqrt{x^2-1}) }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \ln\left(\frac{1}{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}\right)=\ln(x+\sqrt{x^2-1}) }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \frac{1}{x-\sqrt{x^2-1}}=x+\sqrt{x^2-1} }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle1=\left(x+\sqrt{x^2-1} \right)\left(x-\sqrt{x^2-1}\right) }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle1=x^2-x\sqrt{x^2-1}+x\sqrt{x^2-1}-(x^2-1) }\)
and then simplify that...
Ok so why does it seem that math is broken? i.e. what i did with x=2?
wow I am out of it
I was just assuming 1/(2-sqrt{3}) < 1
that cant be a thing. you cant disprove it for x=2 and prove it for x= anything...
But it is true for x=2. I am just slow today...
\(\frac{1}{2-\sqrt{3}}=2+\sqrt{3}\) is true
@radicalgal the above process by @SolomonZelman is correct
and the graph, as show above as well, shows that both graph indeed are one and the same, thus both of them are equal indeed
but there are extraneous solutions somewhere when x<0.
besides these extraneous solutions, everything is correct I suppose... Thanks jdoe0001
just to expand some ---> \(\bf 1=\left(x+\sqrt{x^2-1} \right)\left(x-\sqrt{x^2-1}\right) \implies 1=(x)^2-(\sqrt{x^2-1})^2 \\ \quad \\ 1=x^2-(x^2-1)\implies 1=\cancel{x^2-x^2}+1\)
It is correct but not written correctly for a direct proof(the same way that it is not OK to manipulate both sides in a trig identity). But that depends on the level of proof expected....
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