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OpenStudy (anonymous):

another question about limit.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0^{+}}(x\left[cotx \right]+\left[ x \right]cotx)\]

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

Are those greatest integer functions? For the [ ] brackets?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes .

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

OK, so we have rounding here like [3.141] = 3. Got it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 can you help me?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@iambatman

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Consider below limit first : \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0^{+}}(x\left[\cot x \right])\] By definition of floor function we have \[\cot x-1\lt [\cot x] \le \cot x\] Multiply \(x\) through out and get \[x(\cot x-1)\lt x[\cot x] \le x\cot x\] Take limit through out and use squeeze thm. You can work the other limit similarly

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Haha I just suggested squeeze theorem to jtvatsim xD asking if it was related

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

Brilliant @astrophysics and @ganeshie8 ! :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

both xcotx-x and xcotx have same limits

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you see now.. when you think something in ur head, your ideas do float around w/o your permission sometimes... and others get access to them ;p @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

xD

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

Ah right, @ganeshie8 ... good thinking. :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that strict inequality on left hand side.. is that a problem for squeezing ?

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

hmm... not positive about that...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

same here.. need to think it through...

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

perhaps it's fine because of the x --> 0+ from the right???

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wolf says both sides limit exist and equal to 1 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5Clim_%7Bx+%5Crightarrow+0%7D+%28x*floor%28cotx%29%29

OpenStudy (jtvatsim):

I really hope I am wrong, but it appears that we have a problem with using the squeeze theorem on the second limit....

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I think that strict inequality is not an issue because we don't bother about the value of function at \(x=0\), we're only interested in what goes on around : |dw:1439538710111:dw| It doesn't matter whether the functions are defined at \(x=0\) or if their values all are "equal"... so squeeze thm should work just fine with strict inequalities too

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