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OpenStudy (anonymous):

polynomial with roots 4, −5, and 7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

those are the answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The "roots" of a polynomial are the x-values of the polynomial (f(x)) such that f(x)=0. There are also called the zeroes of the function (polynomial here). So the quick way to get the answer is to substitute in the x-values into the polynomials and evaluate.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If the result is 0 then that x-value is a root for that polynomial. The answer will be the polynomial that has all three x-values as its roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you do that exactly?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Depending on your speed with factoring, the longer/shorter method would be to completely factor the polynomials and see which one ends up with the appropriate roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Substituting: \[ f(x)=x^3-6x^2-27x+140\]So: \[ f(4)=(4)^3-6(4)^2-27(4)+140\]Evaluate. Rinse and repeat with the other roots and, if necessary, the other polynomials.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The FINAL way and probably the easiest (which is why I left it till last). Is to build the polynomial from its roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If a polynomial as all real roots a, b, & c (this one does) then one can write the polynomial as the product: (x-a)(x-b)(x-c). Now I wrote this only in third order (as per the question), but this is true for any order n.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you solve the problem this way, then just form the product, multiply it out, then compare to the given choices.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm a little confused as to what a,b,c would be though I know the x's would be replaced with 4,-5,7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the a, b, & c are just standing in for any three numbers that are the roots of the polynomial. Make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

By writing (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) I have expressed ALL third order polynomials with REAL roots since a,b, & c are just place holder variables for a given set of 3 real numbers that are the roots of a third order polynomial.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So in this example we could have a=4 b=-5 and c=7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But I want you to appreciate that ANY third order polynomial with real roots can be written this way which is what is so powerful about it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay so I was doing this backwards lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well there is no wrong way to do this problem. Either way works, but this way seems to be the quickest.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's why I offered all of the possible ways of solving it. When you sitting there during a test, if you space one way of doing it you can fall back on the others.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So what would the polynomial be? Please post it here before multiplying it out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Please don't hesitate to try while you have me here mistakes are ok I can quickly correct them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright so I'm trying to work this out and I'm still confused as to how to do it correctly? Could you show me an example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Though generally you should never be afraid to try when it comes to math. If you are wrong that can often be a MORE powerful way of learning. Because it allows you to figure out the error in your thinking.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(I just feel like Im never going to use this stuff again)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well dont work anything out yet.... Write down the polynomial in the form I have given using the roots given in the problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

emily its ok to get frustrated at this stuff but dont say that you have no idea what you will ultimately end up doing. I felt the same way when I was younger, and now.... well suffice it to say I use this stuf A L O T!!! :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Frustration with this stuff is natural just take a breath, and keep trying. Like anything in life practice makes perfect and it takes exercise to get your mental muscle strong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x-4)(x+5)(x-7) I'm sure in my future career I will do something w/o math, but for now I need to pass this class

OpenStudy (anonymous):

CORRECT :D :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yay! So after this step you said I need to multiply something?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You never know emily I actually went back to school because math related degrees are WAYY more valuable at finding and getting a job. And I ended up needing to know a lot... and I mean a lottttt of math. But I found joy in it because like everything in life, once you get good at it it become really enjoyable. Trust me!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes now we will multiply it out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok lets look at the first two terms first: (x-4)(x+5)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you multiply those out?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alrighty I'm almost done don't go anywhere

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Im here

OpenStudy (welshfella):

-4*5*-7 = 140 so its either a or d

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@welshfella Dont worry I got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 0 I'm pretty sure that's wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok what happened to multiplying out (x-4)(x+5)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did! Ok, let me try this again I'm going to do this differently (x-4)(x+5) -4*5 and x stays the same (x-20)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you remember the FOIL technique for multiplying binomials (two term sums in parentheses)? First Outer Inner Last?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I remember that from algebra 1 kinda

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but not really

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok well I will tell you a better way imo of doing this type of stuff. Do you remember the distributive rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is 4(3+1)=?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok how did you find that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4(3+1)= 4(4) 16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok what about this: 4(3+1)= 4*3+4*1= 12+4= 16 Makes sense right? I distributed the 4 to both terms inside the parentheses

OpenStudy (anonymous):

either way the answer was correct yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what do i need to do?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok hold your horses... I want to make sure this is super clear because often times people forget lower level maths and get really frustrated in later level maths thinking it is too hard, but in reality they have just forgotten simple tricks that make the harder problems MUCH MUCH easier.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok what about (2+3)(3+5)=?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5+8 13

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wasn't adding them I was multiplying them. Try again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg whoops i jumped over that 40 sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its ok... Note I could also DISTRIBUTE :D :D (2+3)3 + (2+3)5 = 5*3 + 5*5 = 15 + 25 = 40 3*2 + 3*3 + 2*5 + 3*5 = 6 + 9 + 10 + 15 = 40 Notice no matter what level I stop I always get the same answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OK i see that, but how do i apply redistribution to what I'm doing ):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok so lets do the same with (x-4)(x+5)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D See now? Do it and post your answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Having trouble?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Darn I meant: (x-4)(x+5) (x-4)x+(x-4)5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok! (x-4)(x+5) (x-4)4 + (x-4)5 = 5*-4 + x*x = -20 + x I tried it like this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry but that isnt correct. Please don't skip steps. Think of skipping steps as a privilege you must EARN through mastering the process first. Once you have mastered a concept then you can skip steps (maybe).... but NEVER before. It's alright though just try again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just do the first term... what is (x-4)x =

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did it like you showed me on your other comment ): I'm just so confused I'm never gonna get this quiz done..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Relax... Relax... Stop for a second. Put down your pencil, close your eyes, and take a few deeps breaths.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Cross your fingers and put your hands on your stomach... Breath deeply and feel your stomach expand and contract.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do this for a few breaths and try and clear your mind... Do this for a min or so and come back.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you get back say something so I know.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok lets get to it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Feel a little better?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So we are just looking at (x-4)x right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, so i was looking at what you had written earlier (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) -4* 5*-7 = 140 5* -7 = -35 -4* 5 = -20 f(x) = x^3 - 20x^2 - 35x +140 I'm thinking this is my answer? I only have like 10 minutes to finish my quiz, but I'm very confident about my answer please tell me what you think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh... umm I had no idea you were just trying to work out the coefficients... hold on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No sorry its x^3-6x^2-27x+140

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was close /:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

After you are done with your quiz plz come back to this posting so we can work out where you are going wrong. It is very important to sort out problems like this because this WILL haunt you again and again if you don't figure out what your doing wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me really fast with one more? its the opposite of this if you catch my drift Which of the following represents the zeros of f(x) = 4x3 − 13x2 − 37x + 10?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you start a new post please this one is too long already.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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