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OpenStudy (maddy1251):

g(x)=x^4+3x^3+x^2-3x-2 Identify the extreme values and state the kind relative or absolute and Min or Max I need help doing this. Will fan and medal.

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

This is Calculus right? Do u know what happens at relative Min / Max?

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

Pre-calc, yes. And sort of, not really. I was in a riding accident and missed classes for a week, so I didn't get to see this gone over. That's all. If you walk me through it I am very happyy to. I love math and learning.

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

I want to ensure I'll find the correct answer to this :)

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

Sorry to hear about ur riding accident :( hope u are doing ok now! it will take some reading to catch up as the class has covered lots of things in a week. to solve this problem, do u know what is dy/dx equal to at relative Min / Max?

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

Thanks, I am doing better now! It will take time but I am patient. I've touched based on it but don't know it well, can you explain slightlu please? Just so we're on the same page

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

Here is a good page for reference: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/MinMaxValues.aspx Read that first plz

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

So local means or refers to certain points, global is kinda like infinite or uncertain points? Did I understand that much?

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

Correct - u read fast :) Now im gonna cheat a lil....u can "see" how g(x) looks like from here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=g%28x%29%3Dx%5E4%2B3x%5E3%2Bx%5E2-3x-2

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

I see. No we see max and min points

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

Also where it crosses on the graph

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

Correct - the plot gives the absolute min / max to u already. Apply what u learn from the lamar page, where are the relative min / max?

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

min; about (0.5, -3) (guessing) max; about (-1, 0) ( Guessing this because its the highest "wave" of the graph)

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

no u are jumping ahead now - from the lamar page, what happens to g'(x) at the relative min/max?

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

are you refering to the nature of the graph itself?

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

i was referring to the Fermat's Theorem on the lamar page: " If g(x) has a relative extrema at x=c and g'(c) exists, then x=c is a critical point of g(x). In fact, it will be a critical point such that g'(c)=0."

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

So, does that mean this is in relation to our max/min points? @superdavesuper

OpenStudy (maddy1251):

@superdavesuper I have another question I need to ask, can we just message back andforth like we are? That's eaier to. I'll medal you now.

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