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rvc (rvc):

Successive differentiation. Please help.

rvc (rvc):

\[\rm find~the~nth~derivative~of~\tan^{-1} x\]

rvc (rvc):

Please help. I'm learning this and I don't know how to go about

rvc (rvc):

@Michele_Laino

OpenStudy (empty):

Well, can you take the first derivative? After that, it becomes a polynomial which has a more easy to see nth form.

rvc (rvc):

Yup... I got the first derivative

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I'm working on your question...

rvc (rvc):

After that I did for yn of the first derivati

OpenStudy (empty):

Is this the actual question or are you trying to find the Taylor series of arctan x?

rvc (rvc):

this is the actual question

OpenStudy (baru):

the expression is gets longer everytime because of the chain rule :(

rvc (rvc):

:(

rvc (rvc):

@Michele_Laino

rvc (rvc):

Please help. I'm learning this and I don't know how to go about

OpenStudy (empty):

Although circular reasoning in a sense, if you're allowed to use the Taylor series for arctan x, you basically already have all the nth derivatives there.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

the problem is not easy, nevertheless, the subsequent series of Taylor can be useful: \[\Large \arctan x = \sum\limits_{k = 0}^\infty {\frac{{{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^k}{x^{2k + 1}}}}{{2k + 1}}} \]

OpenStudy (empty):

Actually this looks promising http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/29649/why-is-arctanx-x-x3-3x5-5-x7-7-dots

OpenStudy (empty):

They essentially just use \[\frac{d}{dx} \arctan x = \frac{1}{1+x^2}\] and then use the geometric series: \[\frac{1}{1-y} = \sum_{n=0}^\infty y^n\] with \( y=-x^2\) and from there it looks like you can kinda leap frog your way into it. Although there might be some caveats, just what it looks like from a cursory glance! :D

rvc (rvc):

:/

rvc (rvc):

what about taylor series u ppl were telling?

OpenStudy (empty):

Since you don't need the nth derivatives to get the Taylor series, it's actually not circular reasoning to use it to find the nth derivative of arctan. Finding the nth derivative of a Taylor series is much easier since the nth derivative of any polynomial is: \[\frac{d^n}{dx^n} x^k = \frac{k}{(k-n)!} x^{k-n}\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

Taylor series can be differentiated term by term, and since the series above has radius of convergence \(r=1\), then we can apply this theorem: "If we have this power series: \[\Large f\left( x \right) = \sum\limits_{n = 0}^\infty {{a_n}{x^n}} \] then the function \(f(x)\) is infinitely differentiable, inside a neighborhood of \(x=0\) and radius \(r=1\) and we can write: \[\Large {f^{\left( k \right)}}\left( x \right) = \sum\limits_{n = k}^\infty {n\left( {n - 1} \right)...\left( {n - k + 1} \right){a_n}{x^{n - k}}} \]

rvc (rvc):

hmm im confused

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

the series above is a powers series: where \(f(x)= \arctan x\), so using the theorem above, we can write this: \[\large \frac{{{d^k}}}{{d{x^k}}}\left( {\arctan x} \right) = \sum\limits_{n = k}^\infty {n\left( {n - 1} \right)...\left( {n - k + 1} \right)\frac{{{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^n}}}{{2n + 1}}{x^{2n + 1 - k}}} \]

rvc (rvc):

by using taylor series i can diff n times right?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes! inifinite times

rvc (rvc):

okay :) so the terms will be infinte :)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes! Each derivative is expressed as an infinite powers series, as we can see from the formula above

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

It is all that I know, in order to solve your question

rvc (rvc):

okay tysm

rvc (rvc):

ty @Empty @Michele_Laino @baru

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

thanks!! :) @rvc

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