A common inhabitant of human intestines is the bacterium Escherichia coli, named after the German pediatrician Theodor Escherich, who identified it in 1885. A cell of this bacterium in a nutrient-broth medium divides into two cells every 20 minutes. The initial population of a culture is 40 cells. (a) Find the relative growth rate in hours.
What we are given initial # of cells = 40. doubles every 20 minutes.
how many are there after 1 hour? after 2 hours? after 3 hours?
or rather, after 3 periods, after 6 periods, after 9 periods .... 3 periods of 20min in an hour right?
no it just wants us to find the general relative growth rate
then youll have to define the terminology to see if my idea is on the right track or not
check if I did my work correct, one sec
\[y=40e ^{kt}\] \[80=40e ^{k \frac{ 20 }{ 60 }}\] \[2=e ^{k \frac{ 1 }{ 3 }}\] \[\ln 2=\ln e ^{k \frac{ 1 }{ 3 }}\] \[k=3\ln 2\]
is this calculus work?
according to my book k is the relative growth rate. we are using Calculus Early Transcedentals 8 edition. and yes
\[\frac{dP}{dt}=kP\] \[k(\color{red}{rgr})=\frac{1}{P}\frac{dP}{dt}\]
yes
So what does it mean?
P(0min)= 40 P(20min)= 80 P(40min)= 160 P(60min) = 320 20'; 640 40'; 1280 60'; 2560 P(0 hours) = 40 P(1 hours) = 320 P(2 hours) = 2560 320 = 40 r , r = 8 2560 = 40 8^3 ?? ... yes P(t) = 40 8^t in terms of hours, as opposed to 20minutes
the question is asking to solve the value of k
yeah, i was trying to work out a similar problem, but this might be a better approach.
some texts are easier to read thru than others fer sure :)
ah ok I was correct in my procedure then
your process does match with their method yes :)
thank you
oh also one mroe thing
if we want to find the rate of growth, we take the derivative of y=40e^(tln8) right?
P(t) = 40 8^t P'(t) =40 ln(8) 8^t gives us k=ln(8) = 3ln(2)
that was the other one i was looking at .... finally clicked as to where to get k from :) but the site is confusing ... which is why i asked for definitions of the terms to start with, ive been far removed from the content.
oh ok lol
it seems that k is the growth rate, ... and the relative growth rate?
no in the book it says k is the relative growth rate, I dont know what the difference is to be honest.
oh wait that just gave me the answer lol, dp/dt is the growth rate
then is sounds like dP/dt is the growth rate since it is the thing being divded by P
I dont know why but when im working alone, I can't seem to think thats why I like coming on here. It helps me learn haha
but isnt that just solving for k?
pfft ... getting wires crossed lol
no dP/dt is not solving for k, it is the rate at which the cells are doubling in terms of time
dP/dt is being called the growth rate. but that is just another function: dP/dt = k P
yes
so if we want to find derivative of P(t) we just take the product of k and P
P = 40 8^t based on t=hours dP/dt = ln(8) 40 8^t yes
can you show the steps you took to get 8 as the base plz?
already did ... its posted above
oh yea ok
Well thank you so much again
youre welcome, hopefully it becomes more clear :) good luck
It increases by four times The function is h=4t
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