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OpenStudy (zale101):

Quick question: Yes or no type of answer. It's regarding propagated error.

OpenStudy (zale101):

It seems that question a is wanting me to do a plug and chug in p(9,6) on the original equation to compute for g. Correct? Simply, i can't get g after taking the partial derivative.

OpenStudy (zale101):

Nvm, this was a silly question

OpenStudy (zale101):

What i was thinking is correct.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, for part \(a\), you simply plugin the measured values of L and T, and get the value of \(g\).

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for part b, you may use total differential

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

may i see your work for part b ?

OpenStudy (zale101):

Thanks! Why would they want me to know what's g?

OpenStudy (zale101):

Calculating the propagated error doesn't require a value for g.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

part a gives you an approximate value of \(g\) part b gives you the error in that approximation

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're correct, you don't need part a to work out part b

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\Delta g\approx g_L \Delta L + g_T\Delta T\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we just need the partials and changes in L and T

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

No wait, you do need part \(a\) to calculate part \(b\). They want "relative error". So, you need to divide the error by the actual value of \(g\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for part b, you need to compute \(\dfrac{\Delta g}{g}\)

OpenStudy (zale101):

Ah i see. I worked off b, c, but a just thre me off because it was way off topic lol xD

OpenStudy (zale101):

threw*

OpenStudy (zale101):

C is definitely the same :) Actually, \(f_{xy}=f_{yx}\) always happen

OpenStudy (zale101):

Thank you @ganeshie8 . Stay awesome!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :) just making sure... i hope you saw that \(\Delta L\ne 0.01\) \(0.01\) is "relative error" in measuring \(L\). so \(\dfrac{\Delta L}{L}=0.01\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RelativeError.html

OpenStudy (zale101):

I used this \(\dfrac{\Delta L}{L}=0.01\) I think we are supposed to know that when calculating the ordinary derivative for g, it has to be \(\dfrac{d g}{g}\) and divide all the partial derivatives with g. Then the equation for g will get plugged in.... I think i should just type it

OpenStudy (zale101):

Do you guys know how to do a partial derivative symbol here? lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks nice `\partial ` produces \(\partial\)

OpenStudy (zale101):

OHHHHH You mean the computed value for g should be in the denominator instead of plugging the whole equation?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes...

OpenStudy (zale101):

Here's what i did without using the computed value of g. \(\Large \frac{\partial g}{\partial L}=\frac{4\pi^2}{T^2}\) \(\Large \frac{\partial g}{\partial T}=\frac{-8\pi^2L}{T^3}\) \(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=\frac{\frac{4\pi^2}{T^2}dL+\frac{-8\pi^2L}{T^3}dT}{\frac{4\pi^2L}{T^2}}\) \(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=\frac{\frac{4\pi^2}{T^2}dL}{\frac{4\pi^2L}{T^2}}+\frac{\frac{-8\pi^2L}{T^3}dT}{\frac{4\pi^2L}{T^2}}\) \(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=\frac{1}{L}\large dL+\LARGE\frac{-2}{T} \large dT\) \(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=\frac{dL}{L}-2\frac{dT}{T}\) \(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=(\pm 0.01)-2(\pm 0.003)\)

OpenStudy (zale101):

\(\LARGE \frac{dg}{g}=\pm 0.016\)

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