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OpenStudy (amy0799):

calculus help

OpenStudy (amy0799):

for \[f(x)=\frac{ 2x+2 }{ \sqrt{x^2}+1 }\], \[f'(x)=\frac{ 2-2x }{ (x^2 +1)^{3/2}}\] what is the range of f(x)?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

this must be the original function \[\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}\]

OpenStudy (amy0799):

yes @Zarkon

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Graph it at desmosgraphingcalculator.com

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from there you can determine the range

OpenStudy (amy0799):

i have to figure it out without graphing it

OpenStudy (malcolmmcswain):

o_o

OpenStudy (amy0799):

that was my face also lol

OpenStudy (mathmate):

From the derivative, I figure out you mean \(\Large f(x)=\frac{ 2x+2 }{ \sqrt{x^2+1} }\). We realize from f(x) that there is no vertical asymptote since the denominator is always \(\ge \)1. As |x| gets larger, so does the denominator, therefore there will be two horizontal asymptotes by taking the limit of f(x) as x->\(\pm \infty\). Also, locate the critical point where f'(x)=0, find out if it is a max. or min (using the second derivative test.

OpenStudy (lochana):

I think, the range is between 2 and 2*root(2)

OpenStudy (amy0799):

how did you get that?

OpenStudy (lochana):

wait. i will send you

OpenStudy (lochana):

OpenStudy (lochana):

and you have to rotate it by 180 :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}=-2\]

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon no. it's not.

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon you can't just put values in limits. you need to make it in way that it give comprehensive answers. would you be able to explain how you say it is -2

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}=\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2(1+\frac{1}{x^2})}}=\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2}\sqrt{(1+\frac{1}{x^2})}}\] \[=\frac{2x+2}{|x|\sqrt{(1+\frac{1}{x^2})}}=\frac{x}{|x|}\frac{2+\frac{2}{x}}{\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x^2}}}\]

OpenStudy (lochana):

yes. that's exactly right. and it give +2 for both -infinity and +infinity of x

OpenStudy (zarkon):

wrong

OpenStudy (zarkon):

it is -2...think about it for a while

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon no way. well, I need some explainations on that. I still argue that it is +2

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon that website has issues. can you give reasonable answer please?

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon I mean, just think about for a second, You can't say it is -2. your work on limits is correct. and absolute value doesn't matter in this case. So x is cancel out. then substitute -infinity for x. as you can see. 1/-infinity is almost 0. so it doesn't matter either. finally you get 2/toor(1). which is 2

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I think you need to go back and review limits

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\(\frac{x}{|x|}=-1\) when \(x<0\)

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon okay. May be I am wrong. can you point out my mistake?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}=\lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{x}{|x|}\frac{2+\frac{2}{x}}{\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x^2}}}=(-1)\frac{2+0}{\sqrt{1+0}}=-2\]

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon My apologies. I am wrong. That's for that.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

so what's the range then?

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon I can't make my mind.:) it has to be 2.:D

OpenStudy (zarkon):

last thing I type here \[\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}\] \[x^2+1\ge1\] so the denominator is always positive \[2x+2<0\] if \[x<-1\] thus \[\frac{2x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}}\] has to be negative for x<1...and therefore its limit can't be +2

OpenStudy (zarkon):

less than -1 not 1 (typo)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

has to be negative for x<-1...and therefore its limit can't be +2

OpenStudy (lochana):

@Zarkon I agree with you. After long time. I decided to use online tools. so https://www.desmos.com/calculator/22wqwgryta rangeis [-2, 2root(2)]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[(-2,2\sqrt{2}]\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

the function never reaches -2

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