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OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

Can someone help me with this calculus related rates problem?

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

A potter forms a piece of clay into a right circular cylinder. As she rolls it, the height h of the cylinder increases and the radius r decreases. Assume that no clay is lost in the process. Suppose the height of the cylinder is increasing by 0.9 centimeters per second. What is the rate at which the radius is changing when the radius is 3 centimeters and the height is 5 centimeters?

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

\[v = \pi*r^2*h\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

well if you use the information you can find dV/dt using the volume formula find dV/dh and you know dh/dt do dV/dt = dV/dh x dh/dt does that make sense... as the 1st part

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

dv/dt=pi*r^2*h 0=pi*h*dr/dt*2r+pi*r^2*dh/dt o=pi*h*dr/dt*2r+pi*r^2*.9

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

Am I on the right track?

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

wow... I would have worked this way \[\frac{dV}{dh} = \pi r^2\] so \[\frac{dV}{dt} = \frac{dV}{dh} \times \frac{dh}{dt} = \pi r^2 \times 0.9\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so now you know \[\frac{dV}{dt} = 0.9 \pi r^2\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so then doesn't \[\frac{dr}{dt} = \frac{dr}{dV} \times \frac{dV}{dt}\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so find dV/dr then take the reciprocal to find dr/dV

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so its just a suggest... they may be an easier... way... or i have it all muddled up

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

I am confused what you mean on the last part.

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so is that about finding dr/dt...?

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

Yes

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

ok... so I split the problem into 2 related rates problems part 1... identify the change in volume with respect to time dV/dt then use that and related rates to dr/dt @freckles may know better

OpenStudy (freckles):

I like your way @campbell_st it seems to be less work than the other way

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

so part 2 is \[\frac{dV}{dr} = 2\pi rh\] then the recprocal is \[\frac{dr}{dV} = \frac{1}{2\pi r h}\] and using this \[\frac{dr}{dt} = \frac{dr}{dV} \times \frac{dV}{dt} = \frac{1}{2\pi r h} \times 0.9 \pi r^2\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

but anyway, I'm sure someone will come along and correct any mistakes I made...

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

Thanks for helping me!

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

It said the answer was wrong when I plugged in the numbers and entered the problem..

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

(.9*pi*9)/(2*pi*3*5)

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

well remember r is decreasing so after simplifying \[\frac{dr}{dt} = - \frac{0.9 \times 3}{2 \times 5}\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

as the fraction \[\frac{dr}{dt} = \frac{0.9 \pi r^2}{2\pi rh} = \frac{0.9r}{2h}\]

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

I got it right. I forgot to put the negative.

OpenStudy (unknownrandom):

Thank you so much!

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

there you go... nice and simple

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

Phew... I'm still at high school... just happy to help

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