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OpenStudy (sjg13e):

Divergence or Converge?

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

\[\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{ 1 }{ 3^{n} - n }\] what test should i use and why?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

comparison test comes to mind

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ratio test to I think

OpenStudy (amistre64):

cant say im all familiar with the why tho ... but if we compare it to a function of known convergence ... and it remains 'inside' of it for all n>N ... then it has to converge as well

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

not ratio test yet because i'm in the limit/comparison test section. the book used the limit comparison test, but i wasn't exactly sure why

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we know 1/3^n converges, can we find some value for n such that 1/3^n > 1/(3^n-n)

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

okay that makes sense. so just to clarify, when using the limit comparison test, i need to find a larger series and evaluate that series in order to determine the status of the original series? and i can do this by c = lim an/bn?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, but the specifics are far removed from me. your book should provide the better steps :) since they are fractions, the smaller the bottom the bigger the fraction 3^n < 3^n-n this doesnt work out for 3^n .... so i bet it diverges

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum%28n%3D0+to+inf%29+1%2F%283^n-n%29 my bad :) wolf say it converges ... so that proves im a bit rusty lol

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

okay, yeah i know it converges because we're comparing it 1/3^n which is a harmonic series and because r = |1/3| < 1 it converges. so if you're saying we have to choose a larger function to compare it to. but isn't 1/3^n < 1/3n-n?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

DIVERGENT

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets say n=1 1/3 > 1/(3-1) is false n=2 1/9 > 1/(9-2) is false the right side is going to be larger than the left side .... but then this isnt the LIMIT comparison that im working out.

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

oh okay thanks. so you're using the comparison test?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/SeriesCompTest.aspx Paul's got your back ... his example is exactly your question :)

OpenStudy (sjg13e):

ok thanks!

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