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OpenStudy (andrewv):

how does the change in position of distant galaxies compared to the change in position of nearby galaxies

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Are you talking about red and blue shift/

OpenStudy (andrewv):

I dont believe i am @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (andrewv):

red shift is spoken about a few questions later perhaps you could help with that instead?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Sure, I guess I just don't get this question :P

OpenStudy (andrewv):

ok let me see the oher question @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (andrewv):

well perhaps this one first, lets see if this one is simple enough without context.

OpenStudy (andrewv):

Does the fact that we see all galaxies receding from us require that our own galaxy is in the center of the universe? Explain.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

No, there is no centre in the universe. And down goes human ego :P it's not that galaxies are receding, but everything is receding from each other, the whole universe is expanding, I don't really know how much detail you want but I think this should give you the idea and you can fill in the gaps.

OpenStudy (andrewv):

Actually that should be just enough detail! @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

There is a famous balloon analogy

OpenStudy (andrewv):

go on!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Here watch this video it's 2 minutes long it can explain better than I can on here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1UC6HpxY28

OpenStudy (andrewv):

ok i will. Stick around please? See if you are able to understand like 2 others without context? but yes, i am going to watch that video right now. Give me a moment! @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (andrewv):

Yes, it did clarify a bit more, thank you so much @Astrophysics

OpenStudy (andrewv):

are you able to stick around for one or two more? because besides these two questions, the rest are going to be ridiculously hard.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Go ahead and ask

OpenStudy (andrewv):

lets see if this makes sense...

OpenStudy (andrewv):

When the redshift is much less than one, we can use a simple formula to convert the redshift into a recession speed, v, with the formula below: \[z=\frac{ v }{ c }\] Recall that c= 300,000 km/s is the speed of light. What is the recession speed of the galaxy Zax in our example?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

I think you require more context to answer this question tbh... :/

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok so we're solving for v, what is the value of z?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

yes, so it would appear i have to solve the question prior to this one to get z

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

What is galaxy zax, you did not give enough information

OpenStudy (andrewv):

i think galaxy zax is a made up galaxy in this book... it says made up... this book is so ridiculous.. would you like to see the previous question so you can understand a little more ?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I understand that, but it requires the example, what was the example

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yes, give as much information as you can

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

z is the redshift, you should have wavelengths to solve for z

OpenStudy (andrewv):

In this "toy universe" you measured the distances at two different times and calculated the speed of each "galaxy." In the real Universe, we measure the speeds and distances of galaxies at a single time: the present. To find the speed of a galaxy at an instant in time, astronomers rely on the Doppler shift. Light emitted by an object in motion along the line of sight for an observer will undergo a Doppler shift of its wavelength \[\lambda \] By measuring the amount of the shift, we find the redshift "z" of the object using the formula \[z=\frac{ \lambda obs -\lambda0}{ \lambda0 }\] When z is a positive number, is the line shifted to longer or shorter wavelengths? Say we observe the (made up!) galaxy Zax and identify a particular spectral line, for example a hydrogen line that has a wavelength of \[\lambda0 = 656.3 nm\] when the emitting gas is at rest in the laboratory. If we observe the spectral line in galaxy Zax at a wavelength of \[\lambda0bs = 673.8 nm\] what is the redshift "z" of Zax

OpenStudy (andrewv):

@Astrophysics

OpenStudy (andrewv):

So thats everything it says above...

OpenStudy (andrewv):

if its too complicated or still not enough information, let me know and i have a more than likely simpler one to ask

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'm helping someone right now, I'll get back to you in a second, but that looks good!

OpenStudy (andrewv):

ok take your time!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Hey, so did you calculate z then given all the info?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[\huge z = \frac{ \lambda _{obs}- \lambda_0 }{ \lambda_0 }\]

OpenStudy (andrewv):

0.0266646350754228

OpenStudy (andrewv):

thats what i got.

OpenStudy (andrewv):

i mean i dont think that could be wrong ? it was subtracting and then dividing

OpenStudy (andrewv):

@Astrophysics

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yes, so it's 0.0267

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Now we can use the formula \[z = \frac{ v }{ c }\] solve for v, what do you get?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

hang on before we get to that

OpenStudy (andrewv):

when z is a positive number (in this case it is) the line is shifted to longer wavelengths correct?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

pretty sure thats correct, just need to verify

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

If it's positive it will be redshifted

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Meaning it's moving away from us

OpenStudy (andrewv):

and redshifted means longer wavelengths right?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

reason i ask is because that question is hidden inside of that question haha

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yes red is longer

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You can think of a rainbow, ROYGBIV

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Red being the longest

OpenStudy (andrewv):

ok great !

OpenStudy (andrewv):

ok lets move on to the next part, lets see

OpenStudy (andrewv):

z=v/c

OpenStudy (andrewv):

so....

OpenStudy (andrewv):

0.0267=

OpenStudy (andrewv):

huh... how do i solve for v?

OpenStudy (andrewv):

we have z and c but i dont know how to get v

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You should really practice with your algebra, as it's very important especially if you're taking astronomy. So we have |dw:1447909203459:dw|

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