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OpenStudy (liv1234):

This portfolio is really confusing me, but I need help with these questions and I think I'm supposed to be working with the equation I made that is shown in the picture.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

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OpenStudy (liv1234):

@Hero @pooja195

OpenStudy (liv1234):

@jagr2713

OpenStudy (liv1234):

@phi @zepdrix

OpenStudy (phi):

can explain what the question is? I see h(t)= -16t^2 + 150 t + 18 what are you supposed to do with that ?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Want me to show you the whole thing?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, please

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OpenStudy (phi):

ok, and how much have you answered?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I have answered the first 2 questions along with question 3 part A, B, and C.

OpenStudy (phi):

ok. For 3A, what height did you use for the building ?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I used 18.

OpenStudy (phi):

ok. Just checking. when will it land? that is asking, when will the height be 0 (ground level) so we have to find t when \[ -16t^2 +150 t+18= 0 \] I just did that and got t= 9.4935... so that looks good

OpenStudy (liv1234):

That is what I got as well.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I rounded it and said it was about 9.49 seconds.

OpenStudy (phi):

I don't see 3C question

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Let me get it really quick, I forgot to screenshot it.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

OpenStudy (phi):

I was guessing that was what it was asking. But your heights for t=3 and bigger are wrong. Remember, you should see the height be 0 about 9 seconds in and your numbers are shooting up. The good news is t=0, 1, and 2 have the correct heights.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

So, what would the other heights be? I think I did it wrong. :/

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I mean 24.

OpenStudy (phi):

-16*3^2 + 150*3 + 18

OpenStudy (liv1234):

24.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Oh wait. My bad.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

324?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (liv1234):

And 4 would be 362?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (liv1234):

So, now that I fixed the table for heights, what am I supposed to do next?

OpenStudy (phi):

what did you get for t=9 ?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I got, 72.

OpenStudy (phi):

ok, and at t=10 you will get -82 (I guess it fell into a lake and kept going down) so that makes sense, somewhere between 9 and 10 seconds it was a ground level.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I don't understand why it is asking for the axis of symmetry when I don't have a graph.

OpenStudy (phi):

3d. Axis of symmetry this is the t where the parabola peaks. it happens at t= -b/(2a) where a,b,c are the numbers in front of t^2, t , and c is 18

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I'm confused as to which numbers are going in the equation.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Something like: t=-16/(2a)?

OpenStudy (phi):

the "convention" when we write a parabola in standard form is y= a x^2 + b x + c or in your case, t instead of x but the a, b, and c are the numbers in your case -16, 150, and 18

OpenStudy (liv1234):

So, -16/(2*150)?

OpenStudy (phi):

the same letters we use when we write down the quadratic formula

OpenStudy (phi):

b is the 2nd number. you have your a and b swapped we want t= -b/(2a)

OpenStudy (liv1234):

t=-150/(2*-16)?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Then all I do is solve it?

OpenStudy (phi):

simplify it.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I got 4.6875

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, so the line t= 4.7 (rounded) is the axis of symmetry

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Ohh, okay, that makes sense. What about the next part?

OpenStudy (phi):

the coordinates of the vertex (t,h) where t is what you just found, and h you find (just like in your table) but use t=4.6875 (always use lots of decimals when calculating, then round the height at the end)

OpenStudy (liv1234):

So, am I doing all of the numbers in the table?

OpenStudy (phi):

For the table, you should figure out the heights for t=0 up to 10 (at 10 the rocket has gotten back to the earth) For 3e to find the coordinates of the vertex, you do the same thing you did for the table but use t= 4.6875

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Is there an equation I should use?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, the one in 3a

OpenStudy (liv1234):

So, I'm just plugging in the numbers to this equation? H(T) = -16T^2 + 150T + 18

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, you are putting in t=4.6875 to find the height at that time. That will be the high point (vertex) of the parabola

OpenStudy (liv1234):

H(T) = -16T^2 + 150T + 18 H(T) = -16(4.6875^2) + 150 * 4.6875 + 18?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I got 369.5625.

OpenStudy (phi):

although in theory you would write H(4.6875) which means H at t=4.6875

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, that looks good, so the vertex is at (4.69, 369.56)

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Is that what I would write?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (liv1234):

What about the next part? I'm also stuck there as well.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Part 3F?

OpenStudy (phi):

if you shoot off the rocket at t=0 what would negative t be ?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I do not believe so.

OpenStudy (phi):

pretend we have a stop watch and start it when we shoot the rocket when it reads t=4.69 seconds we know the rocket is at its peak and at t= 9.49 seconds it hits the ground where is the rocket at t= -1 ?

OpenStudy (phi):

t=-1 means 1 second before we shoot off the rocket

OpenStudy (liv1234):

-116?

OpenStudy (phi):

maybe according to the equation but in the real world, the rocket is on the building waiting to go.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Oh, so that is why negative wouldn't make sense for the equation?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, the idea is the equation works only for time from t=0 until t=9.49 assuming the rocket hits the earth (no lake), it can't go to below the surface like your table shows.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

There is another few parts I need help with, but I need to take a screenshot.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

OpenStudy (phi):

what happened to 4 ?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

One second, I forgot to screenshot that, my mistake.

OpenStudy (liv1234):

OpenStudy (phi):

For 4. you need a new equation that starts on the ground instead of on top of the building

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I got number 5 and 6, thank you for your help!(:

OpenStudy (liv1234):

@phi I need your help! I got confused and messed up, can you help me with 5 and 6?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I also need help with 4 too, I thought I had it, but I didn't.

OpenStudy (phi):

For 4. you need a new equation that starts on the ground instead of on top of the building

OpenStudy (liv1234):

How would I make that equation?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I mean I did make an equation, do you want to see it?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

OpenStudy (phi):

they say use the same initial velocity as you used in Task 1 what velocity did you use in Task 1?

OpenStudy (liv1234):

I never used a velocity because I didn't know what it was. I was really confused..

OpenStudy (phi):

ok, so in problem 4 you are using 100 ft/sec hopefully that is ok. your equation looks good, except people don't write +0 just write H(t)= -16t^2+100t

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Okay, so what would I do after that?

OpenStudy (phi):

I would first find the time it reaches the peak (at the vertex) remember how to do that ? t= -b/(2a)

OpenStudy (liv1234):

When I did the equation, I found that the maximum height was about 3 or less.

OpenStudy (phi):

we want to make sure it is bigger than 3 then we know at t=3 the rocket is still going up

OpenStudy (liv1234):

Can I show you the rest of my equation? So you can see what I did?

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