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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mean Value theorem question...(posting below)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

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OpenStudy (astrophysics):

a = 0, b = pi

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

So find f(0) and f(pi)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know that it is continuous, and I know that the outputs for both the intervals are 0. So (0,0) and (pi,0).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would I just find the the slope with those coordinates now?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

That formula is basically the slope formula, so what is f(0)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is 0

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Right and f(pi)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

So your answer is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 - 0 ----- pi - 0 so 0/pi or just 0

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Right, but now, what is the derivative of that function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos(x) + 2cos(2x)

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Good, now equate it with 0

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Since 0 is what you got from your formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos(x) + 2cos(2x) = 0 2cos(2x) = -cos(x) (1/2)(sec(2x)) = -sec(x) I'm not sure what to do next

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Hey sorry back

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok so, the derivative is 2cosx+2cos(2x) since 2 is constant

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Now we have \[cosx+\cos(2x) = 0 \] use the identity \[\cos(2x) = 2\cos^2(x)-1\] that should make it simpler for you

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You should notice something once you use that identity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, I walked away for a minute. I'm back now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm confused on how you got rid of the 2 (the constant).

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

divide both sides by 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yay. I misread.

OpenStudy (freckles):

there is one mistake in the derivative of f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What's that?

OpenStudy (freckles):

oh @Astrophysics found it

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Haha

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Thanks for checking freckles!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok so once you use the identity we get \[cosx+2\cos^2x-1=0\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Reminds you of anything?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Um, I'm sorry, but I'm lost. D: Just a second. I'll look back over it and see if I missed something.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, just checking...where does the -1 come from?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Hint: \[ax^2+bx+c=0\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Remember I used the identity \[\cos(2x) = \color{red}{2\cos^2x-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm so sorry, but I don't know what I should do. If these were numbers, I would understand, but I'm terrible with trigs

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

It's alright, so you understand how I got to this part \[cosx+2\cos^2x-1=0\] right? Let me put it in a better way, \[2\cos^2x+cosx-1=0\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Now you can factor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left(\cos \left(x\right)+1\right)\left(2\cos \left(x\right)-1\right)\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

yes exactly

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Now solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Should I set both factor pieces equal to 0?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos x = -1 cos x = 1/2

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Looks good

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Keep going

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How would I get the cos away from the x?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You can take the inverse but we have c = pi, and pi/3 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I should just replace the cos with their c values?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

the x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos (pi/3) = 1/2 cos (pi) = -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/2 = 1/2 = 0 -1 = -1 = 0

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Those are you c values in the interval, c = pi, and pi/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh so those are the answers?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that what you meant?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Correct

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