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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Mean Value theorem question...(posting below)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
a = 0, b = pi
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
So find f(0) and f(pi)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I know that it is continuous, and I know that the outputs for both the intervals are 0. So (0,0) and (pi,0).
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Would I just find the the slope with those coordinates now?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
That formula is basically the slope formula, so what is f(0)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It is 0
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Right and f(pi)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
0
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
So your answer is?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
0 - 0
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pi - 0
so 0/pi or just 0
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Right, but now, what is the derivative of that function?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cos(x) + 2cos(2x)
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Good, now equate it with 0
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Since 0 is what you got from your formula
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cos(x) + 2cos(2x) = 0
2cos(2x) = -cos(x)
(1/2)(sec(2x)) = -sec(x)
I'm not sure what to do next
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Hey sorry back
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Ok so, the derivative is 2cosx+2cos(2x) since 2 is constant
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Now we have \[cosx+\cos(2x) = 0 \] use the identity \[\cos(2x) = 2\cos^2(x)-1\] that should make it simpler for you
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
You should notice something once you use that identity
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Sorry, I walked away for a minute. I'm back now.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm confused on how you got rid of the 2 (the constant).
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
divide both sides by 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh yay. I misread.
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OpenStudy (freckles):
there is one mistake in the derivative of f
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What's that?
OpenStudy (freckles):
oh @Astrophysics found it
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Haha
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Thanks for checking freckles!
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Ok so once you use the identity we get \[cosx+2\cos^2x-1=0\]
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Reminds you of anything?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Um, I'm sorry, but I'm lost. D:
Just a second. I'll look back over it and see if I missed something.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay, just checking...where does the -1 come from?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Hint: \[ax^2+bx+c=0\]
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Remember I used the identity \[\cos(2x) = \color{red}{2\cos^2x-1}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm so sorry, but I don't know what I should do. If these were numbers, I would understand, but I'm terrible with trigs
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
It's alright, so you understand how I got to this part \[cosx+2\cos^2x-1=0\] right? Let me put it in a better way, \[2\cos^2x+cosx-1=0\]
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Now you can factor
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\left(\cos \left(x\right)+1\right)\left(2\cos \left(x\right)-1\right)\]
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
yes exactly
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Now solve for x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Should I set both factor pieces equal to 0?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cos x = -1
cos x = 1/2
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OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Looks good
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Keep going
OpenStudy (anonymous):
How would I get the cos away from the x?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
You can take the inverse but we have c = pi, and pi/3 right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
So I should just replace the cos with their c values?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
the x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
cos (pi/3) = 1/2
cos (pi) = -1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1/2 = 1/2 = 0
-1 = -1 = 0
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Those are you c values in the interval, c = pi, and pi/3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh so those are the answers?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is that what you meant?
OpenStudy (astrophysics):
Correct