Please help. Measuring the top half of an ellipse. the top half is 50 feet wide and 18 feet high at the center. Whats the equation?
from the center point, the distance along x and y directions to the curve is 25 an 9 in this case, half of the total width and height
Is that the answer? How did you get to that point?
a = major axis = 25 b = minor axis = 9 the standard ellipse is ( x^2 / a^2) + (y^2 / b^2) = 1
Okay that makes sense, since its half of the answer
so it would be (x^2/25)+(y^2-9) = 1 ?
they say top half, if you solve for y here you will get \[y = \pm \sqrt{-x^2 + 1}\] the top is the plus part
I'm sorry. You lost me.
almost, the 25 is the a value, you can put 25^2
Ohhh okay okay
oh one thing , they measured the top half only, so a = 0.5 * 50 = 5, but b= 18 since it is already half the axis
a = 25 b = 18
oh i forgot about that part
then the equation for only the top half and not the whole ellipse, is the +root
solve that standard form for y and it becomes plus or minus root(-x^2 + 1),
Hold on lost again
sorry that was for a circle, add in the a^2 and b^2 terms, solve for y, and you want just the + root
Why would i have to solve for y?
the , standard ellipse form x^2 / 25^2 + y^2 / 18^2 = 1 will graph the entire thing, upper and lower half, solve for y, and you will get a + and a - square root term, the + root graphs the upper half, the - root the bottom half
I thought you didn't have to solve for y in order to create an ellipse? WOuldn't you just need to find the minor and major axis?
if you were going back to graphing it that is
an ellipse is not a function, so you have to break it in half to have y = f(x) example, graph y^2 = x, or y = plus or minus square root x + is upper half, - is lower half
yeah , it is easy to graph it using the axis, but the equation for that graph of the upper half is that + root, they want that equation
so my answer would be the y=+ square root of x2+1 ????????????
hey kat thanks for the help
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Okay wonderful
solving for y you get \[y = \frac{ 18 }{ 25 }\pm \sqrt{625-x^2}\]
and it would be the positive one because its just the top half?
yes, y as a function of x , is that equation, top half is + root , - half negative root there are other ways to have a more elegant looking equation, but y in terms of x is that
Okay thank you very much. How do i give medals?
or just assume they want the full ellipse, and simply put the 25 and 18 in to the standard form and be done, probably what they want
You think? but I thought putting 25 and 18 will be only the half elipse
not in the x^2/25 + y^2/18 = 1 equation that represents all points(x,y)
But they only want the top half??
not sure, 'what's the equation?' for the top half only it is that y = + root one for the whole thing , it is the x^2/25 + y^2/18 = 1
maybe put the x^2/25 + y^2/18 = 1 , and also y >= 0 , to restrict to top
I dont know if thats how it is?
Could you like maybe help me with a different one? Which is probably simpler i'm not getting that one.
@DanJS i have a question that ive seeen that youve already done before, i tagged your name in it. i am sure itd only take a quick 2 minutes tops, if you could please take a quick look itd be greatly appreciated.
not sure, i think you get the ideas though, k tag me in it
It'd be graphing hyperbolas? Do you know how to?
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