Help? Geometry Question.
Question?
@whpalmer4 Do you know how to do this as well?
@tootzrll
sorry idk geometry :/
Its ok lol idek either XD
xDDDD
okay, I can help with this. if you have a line segment, the midpoint of that line segment is just the average of the x values of the endpoints and the average of the y values of the endpoints
so a line segment from (1,2) to (3,4) has a midpoint at (2,3) because (1+3)/2 = 2 and (2+4)/2 = 3
Oh ok. It also gets a little more difficult though when they include letters like on my problem.
So Q is (2b,2c) P is (0,0) and R is (2a,0) So what do i do next?
Okay, you need to find the location of X. X is a midpoint on what line segment?
PQ ?
Is that right??
yes, it is the midpoint of PQ. What are the coordinates of the endpoints of PQ?
Q is (2b,2c) P is (0,0)
okay, what do you get if you add the x-values there together, and divide by 2? and do the same with the y-values.
(1b,1c)?
(b,c)
yep!
So x=(b,c)
Yes Can you repeat the process and find Y?
I think so. (ba,c)?
what is \(2a+2b=\)
it isn't \(2ab\), is it?
Yes..? lol im sorry my brain isnt working today. I have been working on math for hours
(by the way sorry if im taking a long time to ee ur msgs... My computer isnt loading them so i have to keep refreshing)
the endpoints of the line segment on which Y appears are (2a,0) and (2b,2c), right? so the x value of the midpoint will be \[\frac{2a+2b}{2} = a+b\] and the y value of the midpoint will be \[\frac{0+2c}{2} = c\]agreed?
\[Y = (a+b,c)\]
Okay yes.
so, first two down, now we have to find the slope of that line segment XY. Do you know how to do that?
Kinda, im not very good at it though.
slope between two points \((x_1,y_1), (x_2,y_2)\) is \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}\]
Ok. got it. It seems hard to do with variables though.
no, but different than you are used to... let's let X be \((x_1,y_1)\) and Y be \((x_2,y_2)\) can you write out the equation?
Maybe... X=(b,c) Y=(a,b,c) ? I think im wrong aha
If X is \((x_1,y_1)\), then \(x_1 =\)
b?
is that an answer, or a prayer? :-)
Not sure XD haha. a guess??
We did work out that X is \((b,c)\) So if we decide that we will set \((x_1,y_1) = X\), that means \((x_1,y_1) = (b,c)\) Is there any reason to need to guess when I ask you to tell me what \(x_1=\)?
if \((x_1,y_1) = (b,c)\) then \(x_1 = b\). and similarly, \(y_1 = c\). right?
Yes
okay, good. Now, we also found the coordinates of Y. Can you do that same process to find the values of \((x_2,y_2) = Y\), please?
(c,bc)
Oops wait that isnt right i did both Y's
(a,bc)
Is that correct?
Didn't we say \[Y=(a+b,c)\] You keep changing additions to multiplications...that's going to get you many wrong answers...
Oh right i forgot the + sign
If \[Y=(a+b,c)\]and \[Y = (x_2,y_2)\]then \[x_2=\]\[y_2=\]
x2 = a+b y2= c
Sorry for some reason i kept putting B in the y2 part.
Hello?
sorry, working at my other computer yes, that is correct. so if we plug all of that into the formula: \[m = \frac{y_2 - y_1}{x_2-x_1}\]we get \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)}\]Agree, disagree?
That seems correct to me
okay, simplify that and give me the value of \(m\), please — that is the slope of line segment XY
C/ab ?
Is that not right?
ok, you're back to your old tricks of converting addition to multiplication :-( \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)}\]What does \((c) - (c) = \)
0
wait would it be C over A?
Wait no just A..?
(Sorry i have to go soon :( )
yes, the two points have the same value of \(y\)! therefore, the slope is 0. \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)} = \frac{0}{a} = 0\]
hopefully, a moment of reflection will give you the slope of line segment PR as well
Yay! Do u have any time to help me and check over PR really quick?
If not its alright. Thanks so much for all your help though.
P be (x1,y1) and R be (x2,y2) P= 0,0 and R = 2a,0 y2−y1 = 0-0 and x2-x1 is 2a-0 So would it be 2a?
I feel like i did that wrong.. But just a guess.
@whpalmer4
Your feeling was correct. \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1} = \frac{0-0}{2a-0} = \frac{0}{2a} = 0\] Two points with the same y-value always produce a slope of 0. If you look at the diagram, those lines are parallel, aren't they?
Oh yes. Thanks so much for all of your help :D
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