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OpenStudy (lilblister):

Help? Geometry Question.

OpenStudy (r.hamza17):

Question?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

@whpalmer4 Do you know how to do this as well?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

@tootzrll

OpenStudy (tootzrll):

sorry idk geometry :/

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Its ok lol idek either XD

OpenStudy (tootzrll):

xDDDD

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

okay, I can help with this. if you have a line segment, the midpoint of that line segment is just the average of the x values of the endpoints and the average of the y values of the endpoints

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

so a line segment from (1,2) to (3,4) has a midpoint at (2,3) because (1+3)/2 = 2 and (2+4)/2 = 3

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Oh ok. It also gets a little more difficult though when they include letters like on my problem.

OpenStudy (lilblister):

So Q is (2b,2c) P is (0,0) and R is (2a,0) So what do i do next?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Okay, you need to find the location of X. X is a midpoint on what line segment?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

PQ ?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Is that right??

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

yes, it is the midpoint of PQ. What are the coordinates of the endpoints of PQ?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Q is (2b,2c) P is (0,0)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

okay, what do you get if you add the x-values there together, and divide by 2? and do the same with the y-values.

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(1b,1c)?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(b,c)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

yep!

OpenStudy (lilblister):

So x=(b,c)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Yes Can you repeat the process and find Y?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

I think so. (ba,c)?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

what is \(2a+2b=\)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

it isn't \(2ab\), is it?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Yes..? lol im sorry my brain isnt working today. I have been working on math for hours

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(by the way sorry if im taking a long time to ee ur msgs... My computer isnt loading them so i have to keep refreshing)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

the endpoints of the line segment on which Y appears are (2a,0) and (2b,2c), right? so the x value of the midpoint will be \[\frac{2a+2b}{2} = a+b\] and the y value of the midpoint will be \[\frac{0+2c}{2} = c\]agreed?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[Y = (a+b,c)\]

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Okay yes.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

so, first two down, now we have to find the slope of that line segment XY. Do you know how to do that?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Kinda, im not very good at it though.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

slope between two points \((x_1,y_1), (x_2,y_2)\) is \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}\]

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Ok. got it. It seems hard to do with variables though.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

no, but different than you are used to... let's let X be \((x_1,y_1)\) and Y be \((x_2,y_2)\) can you write out the equation?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Maybe... X=(b,c) Y=(a,b,c) ? I think im wrong aha

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

If X is \((x_1,y_1)\), then \(x_1 =\)

OpenStudy (lilblister):

b?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

is that an answer, or a prayer? :-)

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Not sure XD haha. a guess??

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

We did work out that X is \((b,c)\) So if we decide that we will set \((x_1,y_1) = X\), that means \((x_1,y_1) = (b,c)\) Is there any reason to need to guess when I ask you to tell me what \(x_1=\)?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

if \((x_1,y_1) = (b,c)\) then \(x_1 = b\). and similarly, \(y_1 = c\). right?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Yes

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

okay, good. Now, we also found the coordinates of Y. Can you do that same process to find the values of \((x_2,y_2) = Y\), please?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(c,bc)

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Oops wait that isnt right i did both Y's

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(a,bc)

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Is that correct?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Didn't we say \[Y=(a+b,c)\] You keep changing additions to multiplications...that's going to get you many wrong answers...

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Oh right i forgot the + sign

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

If \[Y=(a+b,c)\]and \[Y = (x_2,y_2)\]then \[x_2=\]\[y_2=\]

OpenStudy (lilblister):

x2 = a+b y2= c

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Sorry for some reason i kept putting B in the y2 part.

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Hello?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

sorry, working at my other computer yes, that is correct. so if we plug all of that into the formula: \[m = \frac{y_2 - y_1}{x_2-x_1}\]we get \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)}\]Agree, disagree?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

That seems correct to me

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

okay, simplify that and give me the value of \(m\), please — that is the slope of line segment XY

OpenStudy (lilblister):

C/ab ?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Is that not right?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

ok, you're back to your old tricks of converting addition to multiplication :-( \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)}\]What does \((c) - (c) = \)

OpenStudy (lilblister):

0

OpenStudy (lilblister):

wait would it be C over A?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Wait no just A..?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

(Sorry i have to go soon :( )

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

yes, the two points have the same value of \(y\)! therefore, the slope is 0. \[m = \frac{(c) - (c)}{(a+b) - (b)} = \frac{0}{a} = 0\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

hopefully, a moment of reflection will give you the slope of line segment PR as well

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Yay! Do u have any time to help me and check over PR really quick?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

If not its alright. Thanks so much for all your help though.

OpenStudy (lilblister):

P be (x1,y1) and R be (x2,y2) P= 0,0 and R = 2a,0 y2−y1 = 0-0 and x2-x1 is 2a-0 So would it be 2a?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

I feel like i did that wrong.. But just a guess.

OpenStudy (lilblister):

@whpalmer4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Your feeling was correct. \[m = \frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1} = \frac{0-0}{2a-0} = \frac{0}{2a} = 0\] Two points with the same y-value always produce a slope of 0. If you look at the diagram, those lines are parallel, aren't they?

OpenStudy (lilblister):

Oh yes. Thanks so much for all of your help :D

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