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OpenStudy (perl):

I would like to check the grammar on this sentence. "You cannot teach a person directly, you can only help them discover it for themselves." Is this better "You cannot teach a person directly, you can only help them discover it for themself."

OpenStudy (anaise):

I would prefer the first alternative.

OpenStudy (perl):

Thankyou.

OpenStudy (anaise):

Welcome :)

OpenStudy (anaise):

wait wtf, are you talking to a person or in general or is this a whole bunch of people

OpenStudy (perl):

that's the issue here.

OpenStudy (anaise):

If you are talking about one person in it would be self like leaf is to leaves if it was in general it would be themselves

OpenStudy (perl):

I am talking to people about a particular person, his or her education

OpenStudy (perl):

`You` , the plural you

OpenStudy (anaise):

Well it make sense if selves was many people, and if you are not referring to the people are talking to, it wouldn't be selves

OpenStudy (anaise):

makes*

OpenStudy (anaise):

but if you mean that one person, and that one person only, I'd go with the singular version

OpenStudy (perl):

I see what you're saying :) here is another paraphrase "You cannot teach a general person, you can only help them discover it for themselves." but it sounds wonky

OpenStudy (anaise):

Indeed.

OpenStudy (anaise):

I would consider that incorrect, and if you were to choose something like that, I'd personally change up the wording.

OpenStudy (perl):

right :)

OpenStudy (anaise):

So do you prefer them-self or themselves?

OpenStudy (perl):

I will stick with themselves, but if someone would like to raise an objection I am willing to listen.

OpenStudy (anaise):

I am quite stumped, because using themselves would be almost incorrect.

OpenStudy (perl):

that's why I thought of changing to themself.

OpenStudy (anaise):

Exactly, themselves = a group. or people, not person

OpenStudy (perl):

Thanks again. I will check back later to see if other people comment.

OpenStudy (anaise):

No problem :)

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