Two number cubes are rolled. What is the probability of rolling a sum of 9 or a sum that is even? I get confused because I don't know if each would be a separate probability, like independent or dependent and if I multiply them or if they are together, what would I do?
can the sum be 9 and even at the same time?
btw this has nothing whatsoever to do with "independent" or "dependent" because you are not multiplying because the sum cannot be both 9 and even, those events are called "disjoint" to find the probability of one or the other ADD
Okay so, I would take the total number of outcomes, and then take the amount of outcomes that can be a sum of 9 or 7, which would be 2/6 or 1/3?
for one dice
it says "sum is 9 OR even" right?
Wow I misread that, I thought it said 7, sorry. Long day
what does it mean by sum though? You should know english is not my first language so I struggle a bit with word problems.
yeah must have been sum is 7 or 9 would be \[\frac{6}{36}+\frac{4}{36}\]
why the 36?
it means "roll two dice, record the total" which is usually what you do when you roll two dice (although not always)
Ah okay, like monopoly.
the 36 because there are 36 elements in the sample space (set of all possible outcomes) when you roll two dice 6 outcomes possible for the first die, another 6 for the second \(6\times 6=36\) total
yeah, or craps
or even my favorite candy land
Oh okay, so now I understand 6 / 26 and 4/ 36, so I would need to add them?
IF the question was "what is the probability you roll at 7 or a 9" yes, but it is not
Yeah yeah I understand that. So, since it isn't. It's asking for even numbers, which correct me if I'm wrong, this is not my first language but even means 2,4,6, . . etc right?
right, it means the total (when you add) is 2,4,6,8,10 or 12
don't think too hard about that probability, half the numbers are even
I'm afraid my brain is shutting down or something. Let me just re read the problem. For some reason today has not been a very good math day. So, two dices, each one has 6, right? So, half the numbers are even, 2,4 and 6. So there are two, there should be 6/36 that can be even? (I'm sorry if I'm wrong)
lets go slow
i am going to attach a table hold on
Okay, I'm just trying to visualize this
The only possible thing that comes on my head is 6/12 for even numbers and 1/12 for hte nine. Oh wait let me look at that
that table is supposed to represent the 36 possible outcomes when you roll two dice for example \((3,2)\) means the left die is a 6 and the top die is a 2, for a total of 5
we can list the number of ways to roll a 9 on two dice, there are only 4 ways to do it \[(5,4),(4,5),(6,3),(3,6)\]
since we believe the dice are fair, so all 36 outcomes are equally likely, we would say the probability you roll a total of 9 is \(\frac{4}{36}\)
Okay. . . I sort of understand that
ok good
now you want to add that the probability you roll an even number (the total ls even)
that probability you can compute by counting, but it is easier just to realize that half the numbers are even, so it must be \(\frac{1}{2}\)
Okay, so, that would be me taking the 4/36 living it alone right? Or is the 1/2 a total separate number? It's just you said "you want to add" and I don't know whether you mean adding the numbers or as in "you want to count this factor in your thought process"
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mean you add the probabilities \[\frac{1}{2}+\frac{4}{36}\]
okay good! Phew I thought I was lost again.
This gets me 11/18
yes looks good
Phew, wow,I'm sorry for all the trouble. It has been a very long day. I am truly grateful for your help.
@moonrose just a side note. in this problem, the two probabilities are disjoint — the number rolled is either odd (2,4,6,8) or a 9, but it is not both. Some problems like this you may have a situation where the two cases overlap. For example, what is the probability that the sum is even, or there is a 1 showing on one or both of the dice? There your work would be a bit more complicated because you can't just add the two probabilities together — doing that would count some rolls twice. 1 1 would be counted both as being an even sum AND as a roll where where a 1 is showing on one or both of the dice. Think about it later, when your brain has recovered :-)
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