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OpenStudy (kramse18):

HELP PLEASE!!!

OpenStudy (kramse18):

\[\int\limits_{x}^{x^4}t^4dt\]

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok, so where are you confused at?

OpenStudy (kramse18):

I thought it would be (x^20-x^5)/5, but it says it isn't right

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

so, let's see. You got 1/5 t^5 then plugged in

OpenStudy (kramse18):

yeah

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

hm, do you think they wanted you to factor out the x^5? (I agree with your answer. So long as how you typed it here is the same as the site)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

oh, maybe parentheses around the 20?

OpenStudy (kramse18):

I have tried that too, but still wasn't right

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

hmm. Can you post the question as written?

OpenStudy (kramse18):

that is how it is written. It is looking for f'(x)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

hmm. Well we are assuming x is positive to have that be the answer.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mean this is straight FTC

OpenStudy (kramse18):

Like I don't understand at all what's wrong

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Give me a sec to double check myself.

OpenStudy (kramse18):

ok

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Oh, that x^4 we forgot to apply the chain rule

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok, so we swap in x^4 for everything, but we need to replace dt with the derivative of x^4

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

and does it ask for f ' (x)?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Is it asking for the derivative?

OpenStudy (kramse18):

yeah

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

You found the integral, not the derivative.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

now, I got what happened

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok, so, you need to first (in your work that is) break up the integral into two integrals will some constant for the other limit

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

then, it's a plug and chug, for subbing into dt you take the derivative of your functions. With x, it's just 1, but for x^4, as you know, it changes things

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Do you want to try it, or would you like me to find you a link or video that explains it better first?

OpenStudy (kramse18):

so you find the derivative then plug it in?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

sort of.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

you are finding the derivative of an integral

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

they are inverse functions, so, they cancel each other out

OpenStudy (kramse18):

i'm not following what you are saying

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I can take you through after you watch it, but essentially, the Fundamental theorem of calc and inverse functions are what's taking place

OpenStudy (kramse18):

Alright I got it thank you for the help. I see what I was doing wrong

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

np, sorry I couldn't explain it more concisely

OpenStudy (mathmale):

First, please include the instructions for this problem. You've posted only an integral, without instructions. Look up "derivative of a function expressed as an integral." Whatever you do, don't forget that you MUST use the Chain Rule twice here.

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