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RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

Problem: To solve this inequality without the aid of a calculator.

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

What inequality?

satellite73 (satellite73):

the question doesn't make any sense to me you got a screenshot or sommat?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

\[Cosx−sinx>0\]

satellite73 (satellite73):

\[\cos(x)-\sin(x)>0\]?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

yup

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

#confused

satellite73 (satellite73):

there is a pretty snappy way to do it i think do you know how to write that as a single function of sine or cosine ?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

:/ i did it the only way i know?

satellite73 (satellite73):

your way doesn't look terrible

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

i did it in tangent, but that in itself isnt easy

satellite73 (satellite73):

but is has a mistake in it i think

satellite73 (satellite73):

how do you go from \[\cos(x)>\sin(x)\] to \[\tan(x)<1\]?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

if we divide both sides by cos x , we have to consider the possibility that cos x is positive or negative..right?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

oh. i divided both sides by sin(x)

satellite73 (satellite73):

or i guess i should say "you cannot" since you have an inequality, you can't divide both sides by an expression if you don't know if it is positive or negative

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

hmm...okay then how do i do it?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

how? how did you do that?

satellite73 (satellite73):

maybe you have not seen this, in which case i am stumped as to how to continue see if you your book it says how to write \[a\sin(x)+b\cos(x)\] as \[\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sin(x+\theta)\][

satellite73 (satellite73):

where \[\tan(\theta)=\frac{b}{a}\]

satellite73 (satellite73):

in your case you have \[-\sin(x)+\cos(x)=\sqrt{1^2+1^2}\sin(x+\theta)\] where \[\tan(\theta)=-1\]

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

im in online school...and it doesnt make much sense at all

satellite73 (satellite73):

oh sorry

satellite73 (satellite73):

well we can continue anyways if you like

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

I thought we didnt have a tangent though

satellite73 (satellite73):

since \[\tan(\theta)=-1\] you can put \[\theta=\frac{3\pi}{4}\] and use \[\sqrt{2}\sin(x+\frac{3\pi}{4})\]

satellite73 (satellite73):

we don't in the problem, i just rewrite the left hand side of the inequality as \[\sqrt2\sin(x+\frac{3\pi}{4})\]

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

oh. okay

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

but then this is wrong? http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+cos+x+-+sin+x+%3E+0

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

how do i get that answer?

satellite73 (satellite73):

no wolfram is never wrong sure you would get the same thing

satellite73 (satellite73):

oh except i am an idiot, you want postiive, i solved for negative sorry

satellite73 (satellite73):

\[x+\frac{3\pi}{4}=0\] solve that

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

lol you arent an idiot. i didnt know any of this stuff ll

satellite73 (satellite73):

and also solve \[x+\frac{3\pi}{4}=\pi\] that will give you one interval

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

- 246/100?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

and

satellite73 (satellite73):

first one gives \[x=-\frac{3\pi}{4}\] second one gives \[x=\frac{\pi}{4}\]

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

oh you meant like that lol

satellite73 (satellite73):

yeah so \[-\frac{3\pi}{4}<x<\frac{\pi}{4}\] is one interval

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

and then how does each side have \[2\pi~n\]

satellite73 (satellite73):

and generalize by adding \(2n\pi\) to each sides since sine is periodic with period \(2\pi\) that explains wolframs answer \[2n\pi-\frac{3\pi}{4}<x<2n\pi+\frac{\pi}{4}\]

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

OHHHHHH

satellite73 (satellite73):

lol

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

can you delete the ones for negative? that way I can save this question and review it later for my test?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

(and understand it?)

satellite73 (satellite73):

oh sure i get it hold the phone

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

thanks :)

satellite73 (satellite73):

did it all steps are there, not sure if you missed anything but this was the key you can always write \[a\sin(x)+b\cos(x)\] as a single function of sine \[\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sin(x+\theta)\] where \[\tan(\theta)=\frac{b}{a}\] that is how you find the \(\theta\) in that formula

satellite73 (satellite73):

yw

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

:D thnx

rvc (rvc):

@RhondaSommer did u copy from nightowl?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

no. I had the same problem. I gave nightowl her explanation too :D it really makes sense

rvc (rvc):

okay good for u <3

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

:D I even gave her credit...sorta. should I write her name? that would be better right?

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

i did anyway

rvc (rvc):

no dear i confirmed whether u understood or not

RhondaSommer (rhondasommer):

oh. yes i understand :P I figured it helped me so it might help night owl

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