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OpenStudy (christos):
Limits,
can somebody tell me how would you solve the limit n * sin(pi/n) as n goes to infinity
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Maybe start by substituting pi/n = x
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
As n goes to infinity, where will x go to ?
OpenStudy (christos):
infinity
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Think a bit
OpenStudy (christos):
sorry I ment zero
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Good. Just notice that the sequence
1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, ...
approaches 0 as the bottom gets large
OpenStudy (christos):
still we have infinity * ero
OpenStudy (christos):
zero *
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Yes, what is the expression after making the substitution ?
OpenStudy (christos):
n(sin(x)) ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Don't want to see any n's
OpenStudy (christos):
pi/x * sin(x)
OpenStudy (christos):
uhmmm
OpenStudy (christos):
this feels weird
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
please show the limit also
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yeah it should feel weird
OpenStudy (christos):
is the limit zero
OpenStudy (christos):
I dont think I have a denominator after the sub
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
so we have to figure out the limit sin(x)/x as x tends to 0
OpenStudy (christos):
scratch that
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OpenStudy (christos):
so basically this is 0/0
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Yes, you may use Lhospital if you want
OpenStudy (christos):
but I dont have inf/inf
OpenStudy (christos):
or does LHS apply with 0/0 too
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Yes it applies to both 0/0 and inf/inf
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OpenStudy (christos):
aha!
OpenStudy (christos):
thanks a lot
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
There are few other ways to do this. I'd like to show you another way
OpenStudy (christos):
Ok
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Remember the limit definition of derivative ?
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OpenStudy (christos):
yup
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
How do you find the derivative of sinx at x = 0 ?
OpenStudy (christos):
lim y-> inf (f(x +y) -f(x) / y
OpenStudy (christos):
) *
OpenStudy (christos):
0 * *
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[[f(x)]'(a) = \lim\limits_{x\to a}~\dfrac{f(x) - f(a)}{x-a}\]
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Plugin f(x) = sinx and a = 0
OpenStudy (christos):
lim x -> 0 of [sin(x) - sin(0)] / x
OpenStudy (christos):
so basically LHS ?
OpenStudy (christos):
because that leaves me with a 0/0 form once again
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OpenStudy (christos):
lim x -> 0 of sin(x) / x
OpenStudy (christos):
~~LHS~~
OpenStudy (christos):
hm
OpenStudy (christos):
im getting a bit rusty :D
OpenStudy (christos):
lim x->0 cos(x)
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OpenStudy (christos):
I guess using LHS with the definition of the derivative is like a no go
OpenStudy (christos):
:D
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Hey still here ?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
The idea here is to use the derivative to figure out the limit value
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
The derivative of sinx is cosx
so the limit evaluates to cos(0)
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OpenStudy (christos):
yes
OpenStudy (christos):
so lim x->0 cos(x) = 1