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OpenStudy (john123):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Where is the figure ?

OpenStudy (john123):

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Start by writing down the given info

OpenStudy (john123):

This is what I have

OpenStudy (john123):

Im gooing to post an image, Check it out

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay, sure

OpenStudy (john123):

OpenStudy (john123):

I cant change the statements I can only fill in the reasons

OpenStudy (john123):

Like I have filled in all the reason,s but I am not sure at all

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Statements look okay. But reasons don't.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1, 2, 3 rows are good.

OpenStudy (john123):

yea im not too sure about my reasons

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for statement 4, can you tell me why DC equals DE ?

OpenStudy (john123):

i think they are corresponding cause they are on the same sides of each other or they could be parallel

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You shouldn't use the term "corresponding" for sides.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Triangle DCE is what kind of triangle ?

OpenStudy (john123):

Acture

OpenStudy (john123):

Actue*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that it has two equal angles, so it is an isosceles triangle.

OpenStudy (john123):

ohh my bad

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

The sides opposite to equal angles are equal.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So you may put that as a reason for the statement 4

OpenStudy (john123):

oh ok thanks, so i should never use corresponding for sides right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I've never heard of the phrase "corresponding sides" We have "corresponding angles" though

OpenStudy (john123):

ok thanks, so what about the rest of the reasons?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

In #5 and #6, you're adding segments, so you may use below postulate as the reason : http://study.com/cimages/multimages/16/segment_addition_postulate-_diagram_1.png

OpenStudy (john123):

ok

OpenStudy (john123):

i never heard of that prostulate thanks!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

That's okay. It says a simple fact : When you add two pieces, you get a big piece.

OpenStudy (john123):

so do i use this for every statement that requires adding segments?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You may use it when required. But in the present proof only #5 and #6 are using it.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

In #7 and #8, you're substituting stuff, so you may simply put below as your reason : ``` By substitution property ```

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

In #9, you have subtracted something from both sides, so you put this as your reason : ``` By subtraction property of equality ```

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

#10 looks exactly same as #9 right ?

OpenStudy (john123):

Um well

OpenStudy (john123):

For number 10 EF has a line intop of it and so does CB, then the equal sign has a squigly line over it

OpenStudy (john123):

and 9 is as you see it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Ohk, I think you may put something like below as your reason for #10 : ``` Segments of equal length are congruent. ```

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Have I said before that we should never utter the phrase "corresponding sides" ?

OpenStudy (john123):

Yes you said that

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I was completely wrong with that. We use that phrase all the time while comparing sides of congruent and similar triangles.

OpenStudy (john123):

oh ok

OpenStudy (john123):

So does that mean my reason for number 9 is correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

No. Does my reason for #9 make sense ?

OpenStudy (john123):

Not really could you explain, how it would be subtraction?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Look at statements #8 and #9 Can you tell me what you did to statement #8 to get statement #9 ?

OpenStudy (john123):

oh I see it now

OpenStudy (john123):

Im starting to see how these two columns works

OpenStudy (john123):

cause the addition in 8 reulsted in have a final answer in 9

OpenStudy (john123):

are my 11 and 12 right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, they look good.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You should insert a new row between 12 and 13

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

statements #11 and #12 and #1 imply that ``` angle ACB = angle GEF ``` right?

OpenStudy (john123):

true, like I said before I have no control over the statements, only the reasons

OpenStudy (john123):

I wish I could but I dont know how its like blocked

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Ohk... For last reason, can you guess the congruence postulate that we may use to justify here ?

OpenStudy (john123):

dont tell me yet, let me try to figure it out

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

We have two angles and the included side pairs in the triangles congruent, so...

OpenStudy (john123):

ASA?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Exactly!

OpenStudy (john123):

hahaa thanks though I was about to answer something else

OpenStudy (john123):

what is the difference between SAS and SSA

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Let me ask you a question

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Suppose I give you one triangular shaped cookie. http://rlv.zcache.com/chocolate_chip_cookies_triangle_sticker-rf16a84dc179d4c9d9b6ec12a7b6c5bc8_v9w05_8byvr_324.jpg

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Don't eat yet.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Then I give you another triangular shaped cookie : http://www.sweetopia.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/triangle-christmas-tree-easy-christmas-tree-cookie-300x450.jpg

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Here is the question : Are they both of same shape and size ?

OpenStudy (john123):

umm...yes?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

How did you figure that out ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

They both are triangular. But they could have different lengths, right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

What lengths must you measure to be sure ?

OpenStudy (john123):

Yea true, I think i just took a guess

OpenStudy (john123):

equilateral triangles?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Not necessarily. Assume they're some random triangles.

OpenStudy (john123):

oh ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

If the both cookies have all three corresponding angle pairs equal, then can we say the triangles are congruent ?

OpenStudy (john123):

no, because they might have the same angles, though the size can differ.

OpenStudy (john123):

they could be called similar triangles

OpenStudy (john123):

in dilation the size of the angles dont change only the length of the sides

OpenStudy (john123):

Ganshie I have one problem, would you mind helping me with it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Very good. So we cannot say the triangles are congruent even when all the 3 corresponding angles pairs are congruent.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Wait. Let me finish answering your question

OpenStudy (john123):

Ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I'm trying to address below question ``` what is the difference between SAS and SSA ```

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

AAA means Angle Angle Angle It is a shortcut for saying that all the 3 corresponding angles pairs in the two cookies are equal.

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

hi dear my friend - sory but i not can answering to you with message bc. my submitt button is blocked again too ,not solved it again i ve wrote to OS team but not made nothing in this case

OpenStudy (john123):

Its ok Ill just ask ganshie!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Oh sorry about that @jhonyy9 . Openstudy has merged with Brainly and they seem to be busy with all the formal stuff...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

SAS means Side Angle Side

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

@ganeshie8 you dont seeing me but i m here daily in the night ,oh yes night here in Europe what i think in Florida or in the est part of your country is night too but in the other part is day

OpenStudy (john123):

Ganshie Could I insert my next question?

OpenStudy (john123):

I got the SSA and SAS AAA and others

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

@ganeshie8 do you really wan,like i repost these my questions about primes,super twins,star-twins,family tree of primes ,...? just because @Directrix have wrote me on feedback that he like i repost these my deleted questions

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