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OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Help Please.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Express the given quantity as a single logarithm. \[\frac{ 1 }{ 7 } \ln(x+2)^7+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }[\ln x-\ln(x^2+3x+2)^2]\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Little rusty on your log rules? :D

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Yea. unfortunately. :/ Is isn't it that ln+ln = multiplication ln-ln = Division

zepdrix (zepdrix):

yes also, a*ln = exponent

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

What does a represent? a constant?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\rm \log(a)+\log(b)=\log(ab)\]\[\rm \log(a)-\log(b)=\log\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)\]\[\rm a\cdot \log(b)=\log(b^a)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya sure

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh okie

OpenStudy (welshfella):

so for the first log we have (1/7) ln(x + 2)^7 = ln [ (x + 2)^7(1/7 ] = ln (x + 2)

OpenStudy (welshfella):

- using the third of the laws

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Still having some trouble with this problem from the other day Senor Sid?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Yea, @zepdrix I got it wrong, am still confused... :/

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \frac17 \ln(x+2)^7\color{red}{+}\frac12\left[\ln x-\ln(x^2+3x+2)^2\right]\]See in red here? It looks like you accidentally turned it into a multiplication sign somewhere along the way.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh there are other problems though :(

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh but isnt ln+ln=multiplication?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Here is our Log Difference Rule,\[\large\rm \log(a)-\log(b)=\log\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)\] Notice that the rule is NOT THIS:\[\large\rm \log(a)-\log(b)\ne\frac{\log(a)}{\log(b)}\]Should only be one log after you apply the rule.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ya maybe we should fix the inside before worrying about that plus.

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh i see

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So the subtraction should change like this,\[\large\rm \ln(x)-\ln(x^2+3x+2)^2\quad=\quad \ln\left[\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}\right]\]Ya?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Yea

zepdrix (zepdrix):

How bout the 1/2, what can we do with that?\[\large\rm \frac12\ln\left[\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}\right]=?\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Make it into an exponent

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

So \[\ln[ \frac{ x }{ (x^2+3x+2)^2 }]^{\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

k great. And recall that 1/2 power is our square root, ya? So it might look a little nicer like this,\[\large\rm \ln\sqrt{\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}}\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Yea :D

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So far we've simplified our problem down to this,\[\large\rm \frac17\ln(x+2)^7+\ln\sqrt{\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}}\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

and the \[\frac{ 1 }{ 7 }\] Cancels with the exponent 7?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmm good.\[\large\rm \ln(x+2)+\ln\sqrt{\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

One more step after that Sid :O Don't quit there!

OpenStudy (danjs):

i would just expand out the thing first and use the power drop down ln(x+2) + 1/2 ln(x) - ln[(x+2)(x+1)]

OpenStudy (danjs):

ln(x+2) + (1/2)*ln(x) - ln(x+2) - ln(x+1)

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Sorry I was having connection issues. But what would i do after that? Multiplication?

OpenStudy (pythagoras123):

\[\ln(x+2) + \frac{ 1 }{2 }[lnx-2\ln(x^2+3x+2)] \] \[=\ln(x+2) + \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }[lnx-2[\ln(x+1)+\ln(x+2)]]\] \[=\ln(x+2)+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }[lnx-2[\ln(x+1)+\ln(x+2)]]\] \[=\ln(x+2)+\frac{ 1 }{ 2}[lnx-2\ln(x+1)-2\ln(x+2)]\] \[=\frac{ 1 }{2}lnx-\ln(x-1)\]

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Uh I am confused... :/

zepdrix (zepdrix):

From where we left off,\[\large\rm \ln(x+2)+\ln\sqrt{\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}}\]yes, multiplication,\[\large\rm \ln\left[(x+2)\sqrt{\frac{x}{(x^2+3x+2)^2}}\right]\]But ya, I guess we can simplify the root and square in the denominator,\[\large\rm \ln\left[\frac{(x+2)\sqrt x}{(x^2+3x+2)}\right]\]And from here you can factor as Dan pointed out (maybe we should have done this earlier, but whatever).\[\large\rm \ln\left[\frac{(x+2)\sqrt x}{(x+2)(x+1)}\right]\]Which will simplify a little further, yes?

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Oh yea :D

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

So it would be \[\ln \frac{ \sqrt{x} }{ (x+1) }\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

yes :d

OpenStudy (itz_sid):

Yes it was the answer. Thanks very much for your help! :)

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