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OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

can some one help me please with solving by substitution

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

solve the system by substitution -x-y-z=-8 -4x+4y+5z=7 2x+2z=4

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Take the third equation, and solve for x.

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

how do i do that i have no clue how to go this

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Start with the third equation. Subtract 2z from both sides. Then divide both sides by 2.

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

wait so what would that look like

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

\(2x + 2z = 4\) \(2x = -2z + 4\) \(x = -z + 2\)

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Now that equation 3 is solved for x, substitute x from equation 3 into both equations 1 and 2. Then you have a system of 2 equations in two variables which can be solved easily.

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

im not sure how to do that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

@song_of_the_sole do you see how @mathstudent55 got `x = -z+2` ?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

kinda but Im still unsure how to do the rest can u help walk me through it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you would replace 'x' in -x-y-z=-8 with -z+2 what do you get when you do so?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

thats the part that is confusing me is the plugging it in that im not confident in

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large -x-y-z = -8\] \[\Large -1*x-y-z = -8\] \[\Large -1*(x)-y-z = -8\] \[\Large -1*({\color{red}{x}})-y-z = -8\] \[\Large -1*({\color{red}{-z+2}})-y-z = -8\] Do you see how I did those steps?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

yea

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Do you know how to simplify that?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

not really

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Distribute the -1 for `-1(-z+2)` to get what?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

-1z-2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-1 times -z = ???

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

-z

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

negative times negative = ????

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

oh sorry positive z

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So this means \[\Large -1*(-z+2)-y-z = -8\] turns into \[\Large z-2-y-z = -8\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are there any like terms on the left side?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

the z

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep, so what do the z terms combine to?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

1z-2-y=-8

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we have a 'z' and then a '-z'

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

z-z = ???

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

none

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep so the 'z' terms go away

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we have this left over: `-2-y = -8`

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

at this point, you probably see how to solve for y?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

add 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep add 2 to both sides. Giving you what?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

-6

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-y = -6 so, y = ???

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

6

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now that we know y = 6, we can replace y in the first equation -x-y-z=-8 to get... -x-y-z=-8 -x-6-z=-8 -x-6-z+6=-8+6 -x-z = -2 do you agree with those steps?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So we have `-x-z = -2` and we know that `x = -z+2` (based on what @mathstudent55 wrote). Do you see how to use substitution?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

kinda

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

but what about z we found x and y what about z

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large -x-z = -2\] \[\Large -1*x-z = -2\] \[\Large -1*(x)-z = -2\] \[\Large -1*({\color{red}{x}})-z = -2\] \[\Large -1*({\color{red}{-z+2}})-z = -2\]

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

ok...

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sorry I picked on the wrong equation

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large -4x+4y+5z=7\] \[\Large -4*(x)+4*(y)+5z=7\] \[\Large -4*({\color{red}{x}})+4*({\color{blue}{y}})+5z=7\] \[\Large -4*({\color{red}{-z+2}})+4*({\color{blue}{6}})+5z=7\] \[\Large -4(-z)-4(2)+4(6)+5z=7\] \[\Large 4z-8+24+5z=7\] solve for z and tell me what you get

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

9z+16=7 9z=-9 z=1

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

9z=-9 would not lead to z = 1 however you are very close

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

then what?

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

oh -1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep so we know y = 6 z = -1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

use y = 6 and z = -1 to find x

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

but i thought we already found x

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

@mathstudent55 did in terms of x

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

recall that x = -z+2

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

plug in z = -1 to find x

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

how do i do that again

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

just replace the letter with the value

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

into which one tho

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large x = -z+2\] \[\Large x = -1*(z)+2\] \[\Large x = -1*({\color{red}{z}})+2\] \[\Large x = -1*({\color{red}{-1}})+2\] \[\Large x = ???\]

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

3

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep so the answer is (x,y,z) = (3,6,-1) ie x = 3 y = 6 z = -1

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

thank you so much... do you mind helping me with just a few more :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure, just make a new post to avoid clutter and lag

OpenStudy (song_of_the_sole):

ok

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