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OpenStudy (redheadangel):

x=(4, -5), y=(3, -1) find x*y

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

I have no idea why this is so hard, I keep getting 60, but that's not one of the answer choices

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm assuming you want to dot product these vectors?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

multiply the corresponding coordinates, then add up the results x coordinates multiply to 4*3 = 12 y coordinates multiply to -5*(-1) = 5 add up the products of 12 and 5 to get 12+5 = 17 I think the mistake you made was saying 12*5 = 60

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

oh.. you add at the end. not multiply! haha thank you

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

would you help with one more vector problem?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, if u and v are vectors such that u = (a,b) v = (c,d) a,b,c,d are scalars then... u dotproduct v = a*c + b*d

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what's your other question?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

Determine the angle between c= <5, -2> and d= <1, 3>.

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

I know it has something to do with finding arctan but that's about it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you get when you dot product those vectors?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

-1?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to find the length of a vector?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

is it just 1?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hint: length of vector c = sqrt(c dot c)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the "c dot c" part is vector c dot product with itself

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the length of vector c is not 1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

tell me what `c dotproduct c` is equal to

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

im not sure.. do i just multiply the dot product with both the c coordinates?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Let, u = <5,-2> v = <5,-2> basically assign vector u and vector v to be equal to vector c now dot product u and v to get what?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

oh my gosh I feel so dumb, but I still don't get it. is it 29?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

29 is the correct result for this sub-part but we still have more work to do

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so c^2 = 29 which means c = sqrt(29) the length of vector c is sqrt(29) hopefully this makes sense?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

yes it does

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Here's a visual of the vector |dw:1478483345172:dw|

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can use the pythagorean theorem to get sqrt(29)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what is the length of vector d?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

5.38

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sorry I messed up the drawing, it should be |dw:1478483469777:dw|

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

wait nvm, i thought you wanted me to solve for the hyp. sorry

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

um, do i just find the angle?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we already have that length

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you get when you dot product vector d by itself?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

(vector d) dotproduct (vector d) = ???

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

<1,3> dotproduct <1,3> = ???

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

-4?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

oh, is it 13?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

or 7

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

<1,3> dotproduct <1,3> = 1*1 + 3*3 = 1 + 9 = 10 agreed?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

oh my gosh, yes duh I thought we were using the -1 dot product from before, my bad

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no we're using vector d now

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so d^2 = 10 d = sqrt(10) the length of vector d is sqrt(10) units long this is the length of the hypotenuse |dw:1478483752020:dw|

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

okay makes sense

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok just a few more steps

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

alright

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So the dot product of c and d was found to be -1 (this was the first thing we did for this problem) That means \[\Large c \cdot d = -1\] The lengths of vectors c and d are \[\Large |c| = \sqrt{29}\] \[\Large |d| = \sqrt{10}\] ------------------------------------------------------------- Now plug all this into the formula below and solve for theta \[\Large \cos(\theta) = \frac{c \cdot d}{|c|*|d|}\] \[\Large \cos(\theta) = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{29}*\sqrt{10}}\] \[\Large \cos(\theta) \approx -0.05872202\] Are you able to determine theta from here?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

I understand all of that, but am not sure what to do from there

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

have you learned about inverse trig functions?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

yes, but that was a while ago

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you'll apply the arccosine to both sides

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

I did that and got 2.18, so i dont know what I did wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Apply arccosine to both sides to get... \[\Large \cos(\theta) \approx -0.05872202\] \[\Large \arccos(\cos(\theta)) \approx \arccos(-0.05872202)\] \[\Large \theta \approx \arccos(-0.05872202)\] \[\Large \theta \approx ???\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're probably in radian mode

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what calculator do you have?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

ti-84 plus

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you know how to switch between radian and degree mode?

OpenStudy (redheadangel):

yes one second

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